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Edgar Cayce on Atlantis I
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2. Atlantis as a continent is a
legendary tale. Whether or not that which has been received
through psychic sources has for its basis those few lines given
by Plato, or the references made in Holy writ that the earth was
divided, depends upon the trend of individual minds. Recently,
however, the subject has taken on greater import, since some
scientists have declared that such a continent was not only a
reasonable and plausible matter, but from evidences being
gradually gathered was a very probable condition.
3. As we recognize, there has been considerable given respecting
such a lost continent by those channels such as the writer of
Two Planets, or Atlantis - or Poseida and Lemuria - that has
been published through some of the Theosophical literature. As
to whether this information is true or not, depends upon the
credence individuals give to this class of information.
4. Then, it has seemed well to many of this group, that those
channels through which information may be obtained interest
themselves in such an undertaking, as to gain through those
channels such information that might be applicable in the lives
or experiences of individuals interested in such.
5. From time to time, in and through the information obtained
for some individuals in their life readings, has come that they,
as an entity or individual, occupied some particular place, or
performed some activity in some portion of that continent; or
emigrated from the continent to some other portion of the
earth's surface at the time, and began some particular
development. These must have been a busy folk, for with their
advent into other climes (as the information runs) they began to
make many changes from the activities in that particular sphere
in which they entered.
6. Then, if we are to accept such as being a fact or fiction,
may truly depend upon what value to the human family knowledge
concerning such a peoples would be in the affairs of individuals
today. What contribution would information be to the minds of
individuals, as to knowing or understanding the better or closer
relations to the Creative Forces? Or, to put it another manner,
what would information of that nature mean to my SOUL today?
7. Be it true that there IS the fact of reincarnation, and that
souls that once occupied such an environ are entering the
earth's sphere and inhabiting individuals in the present, is it
any wonder that - if they made such alterations in the affairs
of the earth in their day, as to bring destruction upon
themselves - if they are entering now, they might make many
changes in the affairs of peoples and individuals in the
present? Are they, then, BEING born into the world? If so, what
WERE their environs - and will those environs mean in a material
world today?
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1. EC: Yes, we have the subject and
those conditions. As has been said, much data has been received
from time to time through psychic forces as respecting
conditions in or through the period, or ages, of this
continent's existence. That the continent existed is being
proven as a fact.
2. Then, what took place during the period, or periods, when it
was being broken up? What became of the inhabitants? What was
the character of their civilization? Are there any evidences of
those, or any portion of, the inhabitants' escape? The POSITION
of the continent, and the like, MUST be of interest to peoples
in the present day, if either by inference that individuals are
being born into the earth plane to develop in the present, or
are people being guided in their spiritual interpretation of
individuals' lives or developments BY the spirits of those who
inhabited such a continent. In either case, if these be true,
they ARE WIELDING - and are to wield - an influence upon the
happenings of the present day world.
3. The position as the continent Atlantis occupied, is that as
between the Gulf of Mexico on the one hand - and the
Mediterranean upon the other. Evidences of this lost
civilization are to be found in the Pyrenees and Morocco on the
one hand, British Honduras, Yucatan and America upon the other.
There are some protruding portions within this that must have at
one time or another been a portion of this great continent. The
British West Indies or the Bahamas, and a portion of same that
may be seen in the present - if the geological survey would be
made in some of these - especially, or notably, in Bimini and in
the Gulf Stream through this vicinity, these may be even yet
determined.
4. What, then, are the character of the peoples? To give any
proper conception, may we follow the line of a group, or an
individual line, through this continent's existence - and gain
from same something of their character, their physiognomy, and
their spiritual and physical development.
5. In the period, then - some hundred, some ninety-eight
thousand years before the entry of Ram into India [See 364-3,
Par. R2] - there lived in this land of Atlantis one Amilius [?],
who had first NOTED that of the separations of the beings as
inhabited that portion of the earth's sphere or plane of those
peoples into male and female as separate entities, or
individuals. As to their forms in the physical sense, these were
much RATHER of the nature of THOUGHT FORMS, or able to push out
OF THEMSELVES in that direction in which its development took
shape in thought - much in the way and manner as the amoeba
would in the waters of a stagnant bay, or lake, in the present.
As these took form, by the gratifying of their own desire for
that as builded or added to the material conditions, they became
hardened or set - much in the form of the existent human body of
the day, with that of color as partook of its surroundings much
in the manner as the chameleon in the present. Hence coming into
that form as the red, or the mixture peoples - or colors; known
then later by the associations as the RED race. These, then,
able to use IN their gradual development all the forces as were
manifest in their individual surroundings, passing through those
periods of developments as has been followed more closely in
that of the yellow, the black, or the white races, in other
portions of the world; yet with their immediate surroundings,
with the facilities for the developments, these became much
speedier in this particular portion of the globe than in others
- and while the destruction of this continent and the peoples
are far beyond any of that as has been kept as an absolute
record, that record in the rocks still remains - as has that
influence OF those peoples in that life of those peoples to whom
those that did escape during the periods of destruction make or
influence the lives of those peoples TO whom they came. As they
MAY in the present, either through the direct influence of being
regenerated, or re-incarnated into the earth, or through that of
the MENTAL application on through the influences as may be had
upon thought OF individuals or groups by speaking from that
environ.
6. In the MANNER of living, in the manner of the moral, of the
social, of the religious life of these peoples: There, classes
existed much in the same order as existed among others; yet the
like of the warlike INFLUENCE did NOT exist in the peoples - AS
a people - as it did in the OTHER portions of the universe.
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2. EC: Yes, we have the subject
here, The Lost Continent of Atlantis.
3. As the peoples were a peaceful peoples, their developments
took on rather that form - with the developing into the physical
material bodies - of the fast development, or to the using of
the elements about them to their own use; recognizing themselves
to be a part OF that about them. Hence, as to the supplying of
that as necessary to sustain physical life as known today, in
apparel, or supplying of the bodily needs, these were supplied
through the natural elements; and the DEVELOPMENTS came rather
in the forms - as would be termed in the PRESENT day - of
preparing for those things that would pertain to what would be
termed the aerial age, or the electrical age, and supplying then
the modes and manners of transposition of those materials about
same that did not pertain to themselves bodily; for of
themselves was transposed, rather by that ability lying within
each to be transposed in thought as in body.
4. In these things, then, did Amilius [?] see the beginning of,
and the abilities of, those of his own age, era, or period, not
only able to build that as able to transpose or build up the
elements about them but to transpose them bodily from one
portion of the universe to the other, THROUGH the uses of not
only those RECENTLY re-discovered gases, and those of the
electrical and aeriatic formations - in the breaking up of the
atomic forces to produce impelling force to those means and
modes of transposition, or of travel, or of lifting large
weights, or of changing the faces or forces of nature itself,
but with these transpositions, with these changes that came in
as personalities, we find these as the Sons of the Creative
Force as manifest in their experience looking upon those changed
forms, or the daughters of men, and there crept in those
pollutions, of polluting themselves with those mixtures that
brought contempt, hatred, bloodshed, and those that build for
desires of self WITHOUT respects of OTHERS' freedom, others'
wishes - and there began, then, in the latter portion of this
period of development, that that brought about those of
dissenting and divisions among the peoples in the lands. With
the attempts of those still in power, through those lineages of
the pure, that had kept themselves intact as of the abilities of
forces as were manifest IN their activities, these BUILDED
rather those things that ATTEMPTED to draw BACK those peoples;
through first the various changes or seasons that came about,
and in the latter portion of the experience of Amilius [?] was
the first establishing of the altars upon which the sacrifices
of the field and the forest, and those that were of that that
SATISFIED the desires of the physical body, were builded.
5. Then, with the coming in or the raising up of Esai [?], with
the change that had come about, began in that period when there
were the invasions of this continent by those of the animal
kingdoms, that brought about that meeting of the nations of the
globe to PREPARE a way and manner of disposing of, else they be
disposed of themselves by these forces. With this coming in,
there came then the first of the destructive forces as could be
set and then be meted out in its force or power. Hence that as
is termed, or its first beginning of, EXPLOSIVES that might be
carried about, came with this reign, or this period, when MAN -
or MEN, then - began to cope with those of the beast form that
OVERRAN the earth in many places. Then, with these destructive
forces, we find the first turning of the altar fires into that
of sacrifice of those that were taken in the various ways, and
human sacrifice began. With this also came the first egress of
peoples to that of the Pyrenees first, OF which later we find
that peoples who enter into the black or the mixed peoples, in
what later became the Egyptian dynasty. We also find that
entering into Og, or those peoples that later became the
beginning of the Inca, or Ohum [Aymara'?], that builded the
walls across the mountains in this period, through those same
usages of that as had been taken on by those peoples; and with
the same, those that made for that in the other land, became
first those of the mound dwellers, or peoples in that land. With
the continued disregard of those that were keeping the pure race
and the pure peoples, of those that were to bring all these laws
as applicable to the Sons of God, man brought in the destructive
forces as used for the peoples that were to be the rule, that
combined with those natural resources of the gases, of the
electrical forces, made in nature and natural form the first of
the eruptions that awoke from the depth of the slow cooling
earth, and that portion now near what would be termed the
Sargasso Sea first went into the depths. With this there again
came that egress of peoples that aided, or attempted to assume
control, yet carrying with them ALL those forms of Amilius [?]
that he gained through that as for signs, for seasons, for days,
for years. Hence we find in those various portions of the world
even in the present day, some form of that as WAS presented by
those peoples in THAT great DEVELOPMENT in this, the Eden of the
world.
6. In the latter portion of same we find as CITIES were builded
more and more rare became those abilities to call upon rather
the forces in nature to supply the needs for those of bodily
adornment, or those of the needs to supply the replenishing of
the wasting away of the physical being; or hunger arose, and
with the determinations to set again in motion, we find there -
then Ani [?] [See the name ANI mentioned on pp. 6, 57, 187 and
324 of the book, MYTHS & LEGENDS OF ANCIENT EGYPT, by Lewis
Spence.] [GD's note: I put a question mark because I didn't know
whether this was the correct spelling or not.], in those latter
periods, ten thousand seven hundred (10,700) years before the
Prince of Peace came - again was the bringing into forces that
to TEMPT, as it were, nature - in its storehouse - of
replenishing the things - that of the WASTING away in the
mountains, then into the valleys, then into the sea itself, and
the fast disintegration of the lands, as well as of the peoples
- save those that had escaped into those distant lands.
7. How, then, may this be applicable to our present day
understanding? As we see the effects as builded in that about
the sacred fires, as through those of Hermes, those of Arart,
those of the Aztec, those of Ohum [Aymara'?], each in their
respective sphere CARRYING some portion of these blessings -
when they are kept in accord and PURE with those through which
the channels of the blessings, of the Creative Forces, may
manifest. So, we find, when we apply the lessons in the day -
would ye be true, keep that EVERY WHIT thou KNOWEST to do within
thine own heart! Knowing, as ye USE that as is KNOWN, there is
given the more and more light to know from whence ye came and
whither ye go!
8. Ready for questions.
9. (Q) Please give a description of the earth's surface as it
existed at the time of Atlantis' highest civilization, using the
names of continents, oceans and sections of same as we know them
today?
(A) As to the highest point of civilization, this would first
have to be determined according to the standard as to which it
would be judged - as to whether the highest point was when
Amilius [?] ruled with those understandings, as the one that
understood the variations, or whether they became man made,
would depend upon whether we are viewing from a spiritual
standpoint or upon that as a purely material or commercial
standpoint; for the variations, as we find, extend over a period
of some two hundred thousand years (200,000) - that is, as light
years - as known in the present - and that there were MANY
changes in the surface of what is now called the earth. In the
first, or greater portion, we find that NOW known as the
southern portions of South America and the Arctic or North
Arctic regions, while those in what is NOW as Siberia - or that
as of Hudson Bay - was rather in that region of the tropics, or
that position now occupied by near what would be as the same
LINE would run, of the southern Pacific, or central Pacific
regions - and about the same way. Then we find, with this change
that came first in that portion, when the first of those peoples
used that as prepared FOR the changes in the earth, we stood
near the same position as the earth occupies in the present - as
to Capricorn, or the equator, or the poles. Then, with that
portion, THEN the South Pacific, or Lemuria [?], began its
disappearance - even before Atlantis, for the changes were
brought about in the latter portion of that period, or what
would be termed ten thousand seven hundred (10,700) light years,
or earth years, or present setting of those, as set by Amilius
[?] - or Adam.
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2. EC: Yes, we have the information
as given respecting the continent Atlantis. In the
considerations that may be had concerning such information, many
are the questions that must naturally arise in the minds of
individuals who would consider same in any way or manner.
However, will a very close check be kept upon those who evince
an interest, these will be found to be those who occupy in the
present some influence innate or manifested from their
experience or sojourn under or in that environ. As has been
given, this would be well to do; for to the analytical or to the
research character of mind, there will be little that may escape
the attention of such a mind - when spiritual or psychic, or
occult, or those kindred subjects are approached - as to how
quick there is the desire, that expression of "I know it, but
don't know how to tell it, will be in that individual's or
entity's feeling, and expression - when one may be obtained at
all. They will immediately become the dreamer! Try this!
3. Ready for questions.
4. (Q) Explain the information given regarding Amilius [?], who
first noted the separation of the peoples into male and female,
as it relates to the story in the Bible of Adam and Eve, in the
Garden of Eden giving the name of the symbols Adam, Eve, the
apple, and the serpent.
(A) This would require a whole period of a lecture period for
this alone; for, as is seen, that as is given is the
presentation of a teacher of a peoples that separated for that
definite purpose of keeping alive in the minds, the hearts, the
SOUL minds of entities, that there may be seen their closer
relationship to the divine influences of Creative Forces, that
brought into being all that appertains to man's indwelling as
man in the form of flesh in this material world. These are
presented in symbols of that thought as held by those peoples
from whom the physical recorder took those records as compiled,
with that gained by himself in and through the entering into
that state where the entity's soul mind drew upon the records
that are made by the passing of time itself in a material world.
As given, these are records not only of the nature as has been
termed or called akashic records (that is, of a mental or soul
record), but that in a more material nature as set down in
stone, that was attempted to be done - HAS been attempted to be
done throughout ALL time! WHY does man NOW set in stone those
that are representatives of that desired to be kept in mind by
those making records for future generations? There are many more
materials more lasting, as is known to many.
In the records, then, as this: There are, as seen, the records
made by the man in the mount, that this Amilius [?] - Adam, as
given - first discerned that from himself, not of the beasts
about him, could be drawn - WAS drawn - that which made for the
propagation OF beings IN the flesh, that made for that
companionship as seen by creation in the material worlds about
same. The story, the tale (if chosen to be called such), is one
and the same. The apple, as 'the apple of the eye', the desire
of that companionship innate in that created, as innate in the
Creator, that brought companionship into the creation itself.
Get that one!
In this there comes, then, that which is set before that created
- or having TAKEN ON that form, able of projecting itself in
WHATEVER direction it chose to take, as given; able to make
itself OF that environ, in color, in harmony, in WHATEVER source
that makes for the spirit of that man would attempt to project
in music, in art, in ANY form that may even be conceivable to
the mind itself in what may be termed its most lucid moments, in
its most esoteric moments, in its highest animation moments; for
were He not the SON of the living God made manifest, that He
might be the companion in a made world, in material manifested
things, with the injunction to subdue all, BRING all in the
material things under subjection - all UNDER subjection - by
that ability to project itself IN its way? KNOWING itself, as
given, to be a portion OF the whole, in, through, of, by the
whole? In this desire, then, keep - as the injunction was -
thine self separate: OF that seen, but NOT that seen. The apple,
then, that desire for that which made for the associations that
bring carnal-minded influences of that brought as sex influence,
known in a material world, and the partaking of same is that
which brought the influence in the lives of that in the symbol
of the serpent, that made for that which creates the desire that
may be only satisfied in gratification of carnal forces, as
partake of the world and its influences about same - rather than
of the spiritual emanations from which it has its source. Will
control - inability of will control, if we may put it in common
parlance.
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1. GC: You will have before you the
material and information given through this channel on the lost
continent of Atlantis, a copy of which I hold in my hand. You
will answer the questions which I will ask regarding this:
2. EC: Yes, we have the information as written here, as given.
In following out that as just given, with these changes coming
in the experience of Amilius [?] and I [Ai? Ay?], Adam and Eve,
the knowledge of their position, or that as is known in the
material world today as desires and physical bodily charms, the
understanding of sex, sex relationships, came into the
experience. With these came the natural fear of that as had been
forbidden, that they know themselves to be a part of but not OF
that as partook of EARTHLY, or the desires in the manner as were
ABOUT them, in that as had been their heritage.
3. Were this turned to that period when this desire, then,
becomes consecrated in that accomplished again in the virgin
body of the mother of the SON of man, we see this is then
crystallized into that, that even that of the flesh may be -
with the proper concept, proper desire in all its purity -
consecrated to the LIVING forces as manifest by the ability in
that body so brought into being, as to make a way of escape for
the ERRING man. Hence we have found throughout the ages, so oft
the times when conception of truth became rampant with
free-love, with the desecration of those things that brought to
these in the beginning that of the KNOWLEDGE of their existence,
as to that that may be termed - and betimes became - the MORAL,
or morality OF a people. Yet this same feeling, this same
exaltation that comes from association of kindred bodies - that
have their lives consecrated in a purposefulness, that makes for
the ability of retaining those of the essence of creation in
every virile body - can be made to become the fires that light
truth, love, hope, patience, peace, harmony; for they are EVER
the key to those influences that fire the imaginations of those
that are gifted in ANY form of depicting the high emotions of
human experience, whether it be in the one or the other fields,
and hence is judged by those that may not be able, or through
desire submit themselves - as did Amilius [?] and I [?] to those
ELEMENTS, through the forces in the life as about them.
7. (Q) How large was Atlantis during the time of Amilius?
(A) Comparison, that of Europe including Asia in Europe - not
Asia, but Asia in Europe - see? This composed, as seen, in or
after the first of the destructions, that which would be termed
now - with the present position - the southernmost portion of
same - islands as created by those of the first (as man would
call) volcanic or eruptive forces brought into play in the
destruction of same.
8. (Q) Was Atlantis one large continent, or a group of large
islands?
(A) Would it not be well to read just that given? Why confuse in
the questionings? As has been given, what would be considered
one large continent, until the first eruptions brought those
changes - from what would now, with the present position of the
earth in its rotation, or movements about its sun, through
space, about Arcturus, about the Pleiades, that of a whole or
one continent. Then with the breaking up, producing more of the
nature of large islands, with the intervening canals or ravines,
gulfs, bays or streams, as came from the various ELEMENTAL
forces that were set in motion by this CHARGING - as it were -
OF the forces that were collected as the basis for those
elements that would produce destructive forces, as might be
placed in various quarters or gathering places of those beasts,
or the periods when the larger animals roved the earth - WITH
that period of man's indwelling. Let it be remembered, or not
confused, that the EARTH was peopled by ANIMALS before peopled
by man! First that of a mass, which there arose the mist, and
then the rising of same with light breaking OVER that as it
SETTLED itself, as a companion of those in the universe, as it
began its NATURAL (or now natural) rotations, with the varied
effects UPON the various portions of same, as it slowly - and is
slowly - receding or gathering closer to the sun, from which it
receives its impetus for the awakening of the elements that give
life itself, by radiation of like elements from that which it
receives from the sun. Hence that of one type, that has been
through the ages, of mind - that gives the SUN as the father OF
light in the earth. Elements have their attraction and
detraction, or those of ANIMOSITY and those of gathering
together. This we see throughout all of the kingdoms, as may be
termed, whether we speak of the heavenly hosts or of those of
the stars, or of the planets, or of the various forces within
any or all of same, they have their attraction or detraction.
The attraction increases that as gives an impulse, that that
becomes the aid, the stimuli, or an impulse to create. Hence, as
may be seen - or may be brought to man's own - that of
attraction one for another gives that STIMULI, that IMPULSE, to
be the criterion of, or the gratification of, those influences
in the experience of individuals or entities. To smother same
oft becomes deteriorations for each other, as may come about in
any form, way or manner. Accidents happen in creation, as well
as in individuals' lives! Peculiar statement here, but - true!
9. (Q) What were the principal islands called at the time of the
final destruction?
(A) Poseidia and Aryan [?], and Og [?].
10. (Q) Describe one of the ships of the air that was used
during the highest period of mechanical development in Atlantis.
(A) Much of the nature, in the EARLIER portion, as would be were
the hide of MANY of the pachyderm, or elephants, many into the
CONTAINERS for the gases that were used as both lifting and for
the impelling of the crafts about the various portions of the
continent, and even abroad. These, as may be seen, took on those
abilities not only to pass through that called air, or that
heavier, but through that of water - when they received the
impetus from the NECESSITIES of the peoples in that particular
period, for the safety of self. The shape and form, then, in the
earlier portion, depended upon which or what skins were used for
the containers. The metals that were used as the braces, these
were the COMBINATIONS then of what is NOW a lost art - the
TEMPERED brass, the temperament of that as becomes between
aluminum (as now called) and that of uranium, with those of the
fluxes that are from those of the COMBINED elements of the iron,
that is carbonized with those of other fluxes - see? These made
for lightness of structure, non-conductor OR conductors of the
electrical forces - that were used for the IMPELLING of same,
rather than the gases - which were used as the lifting. See? For
that as in the NATURE'S forces may be turned into even the
forces OF that that makes life, as given, from the sun rays to
those elements that make for, or find CORRESPONDING reaction in
their APPLICATION of same, or reflection of same, TO the rays
itself - or a different or changed form of storage of FORCE, as
called electrical in the present.
11. We are through for the present.
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3. (Q) How is the legend of Lilith
connected with the period of Amilius?
(A) In the beginning, as was outlined, there was presented that
that became as the Sons of God, in that male and female were as
one, with those abilities for those changes as were able or
capable of being brought about. In the changes that came from
those THINGS, as were of the projections of the abilities of
those entities to project, this as a being came as the
companion; and when there was that turning to the within,
through the sources of creation, as to make for the helpmeet of
that as created by the first cause, or of the Creative Forces
that brought into being that as was made, THEN - from out of
self - was brought that as was to be the helpmeet, NOT just
companion of the body. Hence the legend of the associations of
the body during that period before there was brought into being
the last of the creations, which was not of that that was NOT
made, but the first of that that WAS made, and a helpmeet to the
body, that there might be no change in the relationship of the
SONS of God WITH those relationships of the sons and daughters
of men.
In this then, also comes that as is held by many who have
reached especially to that understanding of how NECESSARY, then,
becomes the PROPER mating of those souls that may be the ANSWERS
one to another of that that may bring, through that association,
that companionship, into being that that may be the more
helpful, more sustaining, more the well- ROUNDED life or
experience of those that are a PORTION one of another. Do not
misinterpret, but knowing that all are OF one - yet there are
those divisions that make for a CLOSER union, when there are the
proper relationships brought about. As an illustration, in this:
In the material world we find there is in the mineral kingdom
those elements that are of the nature as to form a closer union
one with another, and make as for compounds as make for elements
that act more in unison with, or against, other forms of
activity in the experience in the earth's environ, or the
earth's force, as makes for those active forces in the ELEMENTS
that are ABOUT the earth. Such as we may find in those that make
for the active forces in that of uranium, and that of
ultramarine, and these make then for an element that becomes the
more active force as with the abilities for the rates of
emanation as may be thrown off from same. So, as illustrated in
the union, then, of - in the PHYSICAL compounds - that as may
vibrate, or make for emanations in the activities of their
mental and spiritual, and material, or physical forces, as may
make for a GREATER activity in this earth environ. Then, there
may be seen that as is in an elemental, or compound, that makes
for that as is seen in the material experience as to become an
antipathy for other elements that are as equally necessary in
the experience of man's environ as in the combination of gases
as may produce whenever combined that called water, and its
antipathy for the elements in combustion is easily seen or known
in man's experience.
So in those unions of that in the elemental forces of creative
energies that take on the form of man, either in that of man or
woman, with its NATURAL or ELEMENTAL, see? ELEMENTAL forces of
its vibration, with the union of two that vibrate or respond to
those vibrations in self, create for that ideal that becomes as
that, in that created, in the form - as is known as radium, with
its fast emittal vibrations, that brings for active forces,
principles, that makes for such atomic forces within the active
principles of all nature in its active force as to be one of the
elemental bases from which life in its essence, as an active
principle in a material world, has its sources, give off that
which is EVER good - unless abused, see? So in that may there be
basis for THOSE forces, as HAS been, as IS sought, thought, or
ATTAINED BY those who have, through the abilities of the
vibrations, to make for a continued force in self as to meet,
know, see, feel, understand, those sources from which such
begets that of its kind, or as those that become as an antipathy
for another, or as makes for those that makes for the variations
in the tempering of the various elements, compounds, or the
like; so, as is seen, THESE - then - the BASIS for those things
as has been given here, there, in their various ways and
manners, as to the companion of, and COMPANIONS of, that that
first able - through its projection of itself and its abilities
in the creation - to bring about that that was either of its OWN
making, or creation, or that given in the beginning to BE the
force THROUGH which there might BE that that would bring ever
blessings, good, right, and love, in even the physical or
material world. See?
4. (Q) How long did it take for the division into male and
female?
(A) That depends upon which, or what branch or LINE is
considered. When there was brought into being that as of the
projection of that created BY that created, this took a period
of evolutionary - or, as would be in the present year, fourscore
and six year. That as brought into being as was of the creating
OF that that became a portion of, OF that that was already
created by the CREATOR, THAT brought into being as WERE those of
the forces of nature itself. God said, "Let there be light" and
there WAS light! God said, "Let there be life" and there WAS
life!
5. (Q) Were the thought forms that were able to push themselves
out of themselves inhabited by souls, or were they of the animal
kingdom?
(A) That as created by that CREATED, of the animal kingdom. That
created as by the Creator, with the soul.
6. (Q) What was meant by the Sons of the Highest in Atlantis and
the second coming of souls to the earth, as mentioned in a life
reading given thru this channel? [See 2802-1 on 5/18/25.]
(A) In this period or age, as was seen - There is fault of words
here to PROJECT that as actually OCCURS in the FORMATIONS of
that as comes about! There was, with the WILL of that as came
into being through the correct channels, of that as created by
the Creator, that of the CONTINUING of the souls in its
projection and projection - see? while in that as was OF the
offspring, of that as pushed itself INTO form to SATISFY,
GRATIFY, that of the desire of that known as carnal forces of
the SENSES, of those created, there continued to be the war one
with another, and there were then - FROM the other SOURCES
(worlds) the continuing entering of those that WOULD make for
the keeping of the balance, as of the first purpose of the
Creative Forces, as it magnifies itself in that given sphere of
activity, of that that had been GIVEN the ABILITY to CREATE with
its OWN activity - see? and hence the second, or the CONTINUED
entering of souls into that known as the earth's plane during
this period, for that activity as was brought about. Let's
REMEMBER that as was given, in the second, third from Adam, or
fourth, or from Amilius, there was "In that day did they CALL
UPON the NAME of the Lord" - is right! and ever, when the
elements that make for littleness, uncleanness, are crucified in
the body, the SPIRIT of the Lord, of God, is present! When these
are overbalanced, so that the body (physical), the mental man,
the imagination of its heart, is evil, or his purpose is evil,
then is that war continuing - as from the beginning. Just the
continued warring of those things within self as from the
beginning; for with these changes as brought SIN into the world,
with same came the FRUITS of same, or the seed as of sin, which
we see in the material world as those things that corrupt good
ground, those that corrupt the elements that are of the
compounds of those of the first causes, or elementals, and pests
are seen - and the like, see? So does it follow throughout all
creative forces, that the fruits of that as is active brings
that seed that makes for the corrupting of, or the clearing of,
in the activative forces of, that BEING acted upon.
7. (Q) What was meant by "As in the first Adam sin entered, so
in the last Adam all shall be made alive?"
(A) Adam's entry into the world in the beginning, then, must
become the savior OF the world, as it was committed to his care,
"Be thou fruitful, multiply, and SUBDUE the earth!" Hence
Amilius, Adam, the first Adam, the last Adam, becomes - then -
that that is GIVEN the POWER OVER the earth, and - as in each
soul the first to be conquered is self - then ALL THINGS,
conditions and elements, are subject unto that self!
That a universal law, as may be seen in that as may be
demonstrated either in gases that destroy one another by
becoming elements of the same, or that in the mineral or the
animal kingdom as may be found that destroy, or BECOME one WITH
the other. Hence, as Adam given - the SON of God - so he MUST
become that that would be able to take the world, the earth,
back to that source from which it came, and ALL POWER is given
in his keeping in the earth, that he has overcome; self, death,
hell and the grave even, become subservient unto Him THROUGH the
conquering of self in that made flesh; for, as in the beginning
was the word, the Word WAS with God, the Word WAS God, the same
was IN the beginning. The Word came and dwelt among men, the
offspring of self in a material world, and the Word OVERCAME the
world - and hence the world BECOMES, then, as the servant of
that that overcame the world!
8. (Q) Please give the important re-incarnations of Adam in the
world's history.
(A) In the beginning as Amilius, as Adam, as Melchizedek, as
Zend [?], as Ur [?] [Enoch? GD's note: Perhaps Ur was prehistory
person [364-9, Par. 3-A] who established Ur of the Chaldees? I
don't think he was mentioned anywhere else in the readings as an
incarnation of Jesus.], as Asaph [?] [Songs of Asaph? See Ps.
81:5 indicating that Joseph and Asaph were one and the same?],
as Jesus [Jeshua] - Joseph - Jesus. [See 364-9, Par. 3-A.]
Then, as that coming into the world in the second coming - for
He will come again and receive His own, who have prepared
themselves through that belief in Him and acting in that manner;
for the SPIRIT is abroad, and the time draws near, and there
will be the reckoning of those even as in the first so in the
last, and the last shall be first; for there is that Spirit
abroad - He standeth near. He that hath eyes to see, let him
see. He that hath ears to hear, let him hear that music of the
coming of the Lord of this vineyard, and art THOU ready to give
account of that THOU hast done with thine opportunity in the
earth as the Sons of God, as the heirs and joint heirs of glory
WITH the Son? Then make thine paths straight, for there must
come an answering for that THOU hast done with thine Lord! He
will not tarry, for having overcome He shall appear even AS the
Lord AND Master. Not as one born, but as one that returneth to
His own, for He will walk and talk with men of every clime, and
those that are faithful and just in their reckoning shall be
caught up with Him to rule and to do JUDGEMENT for a thousand
years!
9. (Q) Describe some of the mental abilities that were developed
by the Atlanteans at the time of their greatest spiritual
development.
(A) Impossible to describe achievements physical in their
spiritual development. The use of MATERIAL conditions and
spiritual attributes in a material world would, and do, become
that as are the miracles of the Son in the material world; for
even as with Him in - and as He walked, whether in Galilee, in
Egypt, in India, in France, in England, or America - there WERE
those periods when the activities of the physical were as was
what would be termed the everyday life of the SONS of God in the
Atlantean or Eden experience; for as those brought the various
changes from the highest of the SPIRITUAL development to the
highest of the mental, then of the MATERIAL or physical
developments, then the fall - see?
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Edgar Cayce on
Atlantis II
364-10
1. GC: You will have before you the
information given through this channel on the lost continent of
Atlantis. You will please continue with this information, and
answer the questions which I will ask regarding same.
2. EC: Yes. In understanding, then, in the present terminology,
occult science, or psychic science - as seen, this was the
natural or nature's activity in that experience, and not termed
a science - any more than would be the desire for food by a new
born babe. Rather the natural consequence. This explanation may
of necessity take on some forms that may possibly be confusing
at times, but illustrations may be made through the various
types of occult science, or psychic manifestations, that may
clarify for the student something of the various types of
psychic manifestations in the present, as well as that that was
natural in this period.
3. There is, as has been oft given, quite a difference - and
much differentiation should be made - in mysticism and psychic,
or occult science as termed today.
4. From that which has been given, it is seen that individuals
in the beginning were more of thought forms than individual
entities with personalities as seen in the present, and their
projections into the realms of fields of thought that pertain to
a developing or evolving world of matter, with the varied
presentations about same, of the expressions or attributes in
the various things about the entity or individual, or body,
through which such science - as termed now, or such phenomena as
would be termed - became manifest. Hence we find occult or
psychic science, as would be called at the present, was rather
the natural state of man in the beginning. Very much as (in
illustration) when a baby, or babe, is born into the world and
its appetite is first satisfied, and it lies sleeping. Of what
is its dreams? That it expects to be, or that it has been? Of
what are thoughts? That which is to be, or that which has been,
or that which is? Now remember we are speaking - these were
thought forms, and we are finding again the illustrations of
same!
5. When the mental body (Now revert back to what you are calling
science) - when the mental body, or mind, has had training, or
has gone through a course of operations in certain directions,
such individuals are called so-and-so minded; as one of an
inventive turn, and trained; one of a statistician turn, and
trained; one of a theologian turn, and trained; one of
philosophical turn, and trained. Of what does the mind build? We
have turned, then, to that that has become very material, for
the mind constantly trained makes for itself MENTAL pictures, or
makes for that as is reasoned with from its own present
dimensional viewpoints - but the babe, from whence its
reasoning? from whence its dream? From that that has been taken
in, or that that has been its experience from whence it came?
Oft has it been said, and rightly, with a babe's smile 'Dreaming
of angels', and close in touch with them - but what has PRODUCED
that dream? The contact with that upon which IT has fed! Don't
forget our premise now from which we are reasoning! and we will
find that we will have the premise from which those individuals,
or the entities, reasoned within the beginning in this land. (We
are speaking of Atlanteans, when they became as thought forces.)
From whence did THEY reason? From the Creative Forces from which
they had received their impetus, but acted upon by the thought
FORMS as were in MATERIAL forms about them, and given that power
(will) to be one WITH that from what it sprang or was given its
impetus, or force, yet with the ability to USE that in the way
that seemed, or seemeth, good or well, or pleasing, unto itself.
Hence we find in this particular moulding or mouldive stage,
that in which there was the greater development of, and use of,
that as is termed or called psychic and occult forces, or
science - in the present terminology, or age.
6. Illustrating, then, that as to how this was used by those
entities, those beings, in the formative stage of their
experience or sojourn among that as had been created in all of
its splendor to supply every want or desire that might be called
forth by that being, with all of its attributes physical, mental
AND SPIRITUAL at hand; for, as has been given, even unto the
four hundred thousandth generation from the first creation was
it prepared for man's indwelling. As we today (turn to today),
we find there the developments of those resources. How long have
they remained? Since the beginning! How long has man been able
to use them for his undoing, or his pleasure, or for his
regeneration? Since the knowledge of some source has awakened
within its psychic force, or source, of the apparatus, or the
form that it takes, either in a physical or mental (for
remember, Mind is the Builder - and it moves along those
channels through which, and by which, it may bring into
existence in whatever dimension or sphere from which it is
reasoning, or reasoning toward - see) - and as these may be
illustrated in the present:
7. When there is a manifestation of a psychic force, or an
occult action, or phenomena, or activity in, upon, of or for, an
individual, there is then the rolling back, as it were, or a
portion of the physical consciousness - or that mental trained
individual consciousness - has been rolled aside, or rolled
back, and there is then a visioning - To what? That as from the
beginning, a projection OF that form that assumed its position
or condition in the earth as from the beginning, and with those
so endowed with that as may be called an insight into psychic
sources there may be visioned about a body its astral (if chosen
to be termed), rather its THOUGHT body, as is projected FROM
same in such a state; especially so when there is the induction,
or the inducing of, an unconsciousness of the normal brain, or
normal mental body. Submerged - into what? Into the unconscious,
or subconscious. Sub, in THIS instance, meaning BELOW - not
above normal; below - SUBJECTED to the higher consciousness, or
to the higher thought, that has been builded - just as sure as
has a physical body been builded, from what?
That as has been given from its first nucleus as passed through
in its experience. Then there may be visioned by such a body, as
may be called with the second sight, or with a vision, that
accompanying thought body of such an one, manifesting in much
the way and manner as individuals in the Atlantean period of
psychic and occult development brought about in their
experience. Through such projections there came about that first
necessity of the division of the body, to conform to those
necessities of that as seen in its own mental vision as builded
(MENTAL now - Don't confuse these terms, or else you will become
VERY confused in what is being given!).
8. The mental vision by its action upon what body is being
builded? On the mental body of the individual in a material
world, out of Spirit, out of the ability to have all the
attributes of the spiritual or unseen forces - but MATERIALIZED
forces, as is necessary from the mental body in a material world
MENTALLY trained to, or in, certain directions, or given
directions, or following the natural bent of its threefold or
threeply body, as is seen in every individual or every entity.
As these projected themselves, then we find these DEVELOPMENTS
were in this portion of the development in the Atlantean period.
How were these used? In much as were from the beginning.
Remember there was ever the instruction to those peoples that
were to hold to that that would bring for the spiritual forces,
rather than the abuses of the abilities - as those with familiar
spirits, as those that spoke to or partook of the divinations of
those that had passed from the earth's plane, or those that
partook of the animal magnetism - that came from the universal
consciousness of animal matter as passed into its experience, in
its interchange through those periods of integration and
disintegration - and the spirit forces possessing those that
would lay themselves open to such conditions, for these are as
real as physical bodies if the attunements of the entity are
such that it may vision them! and they are about you always,
sure! These, then, are entities - sure; whether animal or those
endowed with the soul - until they pass through those changes -
as there ever has been, see? Also there are those that ever make
for those channels in the psychic and occult (we are speaking
of, through which man - as it reached that stage, or that
position that it became farther and farther from its natural
sources, through the same CHARACTER of channel may it
communicate with that from which it is a portion of, or the
Creative Forces), and hence the terminology arose as 'Good
Spirits' and 'Bad Spirits'; for there are those that partake of
the earth, or of the carnal forces, rather than of those forces
that are of the spiritual or CREATIVE. Those that are
destruction are of the Earth. Those that are constructive, then,
are the good - or the divine and the devilish, bringing for
those developments in their various phases. Hence the greater
development of that called occult, or psychic forces, during the
Atlantean period - and the use of same, and the abuse of same -
was during its first thousand years, as we would call light
years; not the light of the star, but the sun goes down and the
sun goes down - years. That brought about those cycles, or those
changes. Hence we have that which has been given through many of
the sources of information, or the channels for individuals -
and in those, these, the entity - as a voice upon waters, or as
the wind that moved among the reeds and harkened, or again as
when the morning stars sang together and the sons of God beheld
the coming of man into his own, through the various realms as
were brought by the magnifying of, or the deteriorating of, the
use of those forces and powers as manifested themselves in a
MATERIAL area, or those that partook of carnal to the
gratification of that that brought about its continual HARDENING
and less ability to harken back through that from WHICH it came,
and partaking more and more OF that upon which it became an
eater of; or, as is seen even in the material forces in the
present: We find those that partake of certain elements, unless
these become very well balanced WITH all SOURCES - Of what? That
of which there were the first causes, or nature, or natural, or
God's sources or forces are. Hence ELEMENTS - not rudiments;
elements - as are termed in the terminology of the student of
the anatomical, physiological, psychological forces within a
body - GERMS! Sure they are germs! for each are as atoms of
power - From what? That source from which it has drawn its
essence upon what it feeds. Is one feeding, then, its soul? or
is one feeding its body? or is one feeding that interbetween
(its mental body) to its own undoing, or to those foolishnesses
of the simple things of life? Being able, then, to partake OF
the physical but not a part of same - but more and more feeding
upon those sources from which it emanates itself, or of the
SPIRITUAL life, so that the physical body, the mental body, are
attuned TO its soul forces, or its soul source, its Creator, its
Maker, in such a way and manner, as it develops.
9. What, then, IS psychic force? What IS occult science? A
developing of the abilities within each individual that has not
lost its sonship, or its relation to its Creator, to live upon -
or demonstrate more and more through phenomena of whatever
nature from which it takes its source, for that individual
activity of that entity itself through the stages of development
through which it has passed, and giving of its life source that
there may be brought INTO being that which gives more knowledge
of the source FROM which the entity ESSENCE (Isn't a good word,
but signifies that intended to be expressed; not elements, not
rudiments, but ESSENCE of the entity itself, ITS spirit and soul
- its spirit being its portion of the Creator, its soul that of
its entity itself, making itself individual, separate entity,
that may be one WITH the Creative Force from which it comes - or
which it is! of which it is made up, in its atomic forces, or in
its very essence itself!) emanates; and the more this may be
manifest, the greater becomes the occult force.
10. To what uses, then, did these people in this particular
period give their efforts, and in what directions were they
active? As many almost as there were individuals! for, as we
find from the records as are made, to some there was given the
power to become the sons of God; others were workers in brass,
in iron, in silver, in gold; others were made in music, and the
instruments of music. These, then, we find in the world today
(Today, now - we are reasoning from today). Those that are
especially gifted in art - in its various forms; and a real
artist (as the world looks at it) isn't very much fit for
anything else! yet it is - What? An expression of its concept OF
that from WHICH it, that entity, sprang - through the various
stages of its evolution (if you choose to call it such) in a
material world, or that which it fed its soul or its mental
being for its development through its varied experiences IN a
material world. These, then, are but manifestations (occult
forces) in individuals who are called geniuses, or gifted in
certain directions.
11. These, then, are the manners in which the ENTITIES, those
BEINGS, those SOULS, in the beginning partook of, or developed.
Some brought about monstrosities, as those of its (that
entity's) association by its projection with its association
with beasts of various characters. Hence those of the Styx,
satyr, and the like; those of the sea, or mermaid; those of the
unicorn, and those of the various forms - these projections of
what? The abilities in the PHYCHIC forces (psychic meaning,
then, of the mental AND the soul - doesn't necessarily mean the
body, until it's enabled to be brought INTO being in whatever
form it may make its manifestation - which may never be in a
material world, or take form in a three-dimensional plane as the
earth is; it may remain in a fourth-dimensional - which is an
idea! Best definition that ever may be given of fourth-dimension
is an idea! Where will it project? Anywhere! Where does it arise
from? Who knows! Where will it end? Who can tell! It is all
inclusive! It has both length, breadth, height and depth - is
without beginning and is without ending! Dependent upon that
which it may feed for its sustenance, or it may pass into that
much as a thought or an idea. Now this isn't ideal that's said!
It's idea! see?)
12. In the use of these, then, in this material plane - of these
forces - brought about those that made for all MANNERS of the
various forms that are used in the material world today. MANY of
them to a much higher development. As those that sought forms of
minerals - and being able to be that the mineral was, hence much
more capable - in the psychic or occult force, or power - to
classify, or make same in its own classifications. Who
classified them? They were from the beginning! They are
themselves! They were those necessities as were IN the beginning
from an ALL WISE Creator! for remember these came, as did that
as was to be the keeper of same! The husbandman of the vineyard!
Each entity, each individual - today, has its own vineyard to
keep, to dress - For who? Its Maker, from whence it came! What
is to be the report in thine own life with those abilities,
those forces, as may be manifest in self - through its calling
upon, through what? How does prayer reach the throne of mercy or
grace, or that from which it emanates? From itself! Through that
of CRUCIFYING, NULLIFYING, the carnal mind and opening the
mental in such a manner that the Spirit of truth may flow in its
psychic sense, or occult force, into the very being, that you
may be one with that from which you came! Be thou faithful unto
that committed into thy keeping! Life ITSELF is precious! For
why? It is of the Maker itself! That IS the beginning! The
psychic forces, the attunements, the developments, going TO
that! As did many in that experience. And Enoch walked with God,
and he was not for God took him. As was many of those in those
first years, in this land, this experience.
13. These in the present, then, do not justly call it science;
rather being close to nature. Listen at the birds. Watch the
blush of the rose. Listen at the life rising in the tree. These
serve their Maker - Through what? That psychic force, that IS
Life itself, in their respective sphere - that were put for the
service of man. Learn thine lesson, O Man, from that about thee!
364-11
1. GC: You will have before you the
information given through this channel on the lost continent of
Atlantis. You will continue with this information, and will
answer the questions which I will ask regarding this:
2. EC: Yes. As to why, then, each individual must be, and is,
the keeper of his own vineyard? For there is, as from the
beginning, in each entity that - of the Father, or the First
Cause - that enables one to make manifest even in the material
world through the attributes OF the First Cause, that makes for
the manifestation OF that power, or force, in a material world.
As to what one does WITH same is an action of the will that
entity himself, or herself.
3. As to occult or psychic science, as called, then - it is, as
we have found through some manifestations, that these forces are
first recognized in or by the individual. Hence, as has been
seen, in the beginning these were the natural expressions of an
entity. As there developed more of the individual association
with material conditions, and they partook of same in such a
manner as to become wholly or in part a portion OF same, farther
- or more hidden, more unseen - has become occult or psychic
manifestations. First there were the occasional harking back.
Later by dream. Again we find individuals raised in certain
sections for specific purposes. As the cycle has gone about,
time and again has there arisen in the earth those that
MANIFESTED these forces in a more magnificent, more beneficent,
way and manner. And, as has been given, again the time draws
near when there shall be seen and known among men, in many
places, the manifestations of such forces in the material world;
for "As ye have seen him go, so will He return again." Be thou
faithful unto those words He has given while yet with you. Hence
it behooves every individual to take cognizance of that force
that may manifest in their material lives, even in this material
age; for those that become ashamed for His sake - for THAT sake
- of that that may manifest (which is as the Spirit's manner of
activity) through those many channels that are open to those who
will look up, lift up - and these, we find, are often in the
lowliest of places and circumstances. Why? Since these are
forces of the Most High, since these supplied - as of old -
those secular things in abundance, and were supplied the needs
not only of the physical being but of the mental and spiritual
also, contributing to those forces as made for the gratification
also of that builded in a material world, does it become any
wonder that he that shall be abased and remains true shall wear
the Crown of Life? Does it become unreasonable, then, that ye
are being chastised for that which has been builded within the
material forces of the body itself, that must be tried so as by
fire? for the chaff must be burned out! Even as with the use of
those sources of information, the abilities to become a portion
of those elements that were the creative forces OF the compounds
or elements within the universal forces, at that period brought
about those forces that made for destruction of the land itself,
in the attempt to draw that as was in man then back TO the
knowledge; and these brought about those destructive forces
(that are known today) in gases, with that called the death ray
[See 364-11, Par. R2], that brought from the bowels of the earth
itself - when turned into the sources of supply - those
destructions to portions of the land. Man has ever (even as
then) when in distress, either mental, spiritual OR physical,
sought to know his association, his connection, with the divine
forces that brought the worlds into being. As these are sought,
so does the promise hold true - or that given man from the
beginning, "Will ye be my children, I will be thy God!" "Ye turn
your face from me, my face is turned from thee", and those
things ye have builded in thine own endeavor to make manifest
thine own powers bring those certain destructions in the lives
of individuals in the present, even as in those first
experiences with the use of those powers that are so tabu by the
worldly-wise, that are looked upon as old men's tales and
women's fables; yet in the strength of such forces do WORLDS
come into being!
4. THIS is what psychic force, and so called occult science, DID
mean, HAS meant, DOES mean in the world today.
5. Ready for questions.
6. (Q) Describe in more detail the causes and effects of the
destruction of the part of Atlantis now the Sargasso sea.
(A) As there were those individuals that attempted to bring
again to the mind of man more of those forces that are manifest
by the closer association of the mental and spiritual, or the
soul forces that were more and more as individual and personal
forms in the world, the use of the these elements - as for the
building up, or the passage of individuals through space -
brought the uses of the gases then (in the existent forces), and
the individuals being able to become the elements, and
elementals themselves, added to that used in the form of what is
at present known as the raising of the powers from the sun
itself, to the ray that makes for disintegration of the atom, in
the gaseous forces formed, and brought about the destruction in
that portion of the land now presented, or represented, or
called, Sargasso sea.
7. (Q) What was the date of the first destruction, estimating in
our present day system of counting time in years B.C.?
(A) Seven thousand five hundred (7,500) years before the final
destruction, which came as has been given.
8. (Q) Please give a few details regarding the physiognomy,
habits, customs and costumes of the people of Atlantis during
the period just before this first destruction.
(A) These, as we find, will require their being separated in the
gradual development of the body and its physiognomy as it came
into being in the various portions of that land, as well as to
those that would separate themselves from those peoples where
there were the indwelling of peoples, or man - as man, in the
various areas of the land, or what we call world.
In the matter of form, as we find, first there were those as
projections from that about the animal kingdom; for the THOUGHT
bodies gradually took form, and the various COMBINATIONS (as may
be called) of the various forces that called or classified
themselves as gods, or rulers over - whether herds, or fowls, or
fishes, etc. - in PART that kingdom and part of that as
gradually evolved into a physiognomy much in the form of the
present day may (were one chosen of those that were, or are, the
nearest representative of the race of peoples that existed in
this first period as the first destructions came about). These
took on MANY sizes as to stature, from that as may be called the
midget to the giants - for there were giants in the earth in
those days, men as tall as (what would be termed today) ten to
twelve feet in stature, and in proportion - well proportioned
throughout. The ones that became the most USEFUL were those as
would be classified (or called in the present) as the IDEAL
stature, that was of both male and female (as those separations
had been begun); and the most ideal (as would be called) was
Adam, who was in that period when he (Adam) appeared as five in
one - See?
In this the physiognomy was that of a full head, with an extra
EYE - as it were - in those portions that became what is known
as the EYE. In the beginning these appeared in WHATEVER portion
was desired by the body for its use!
As for the dress, those in the beginning were (and the Lord made
for them coats) of the skins of the animals. These covered the
parts of their person that had become, then, as those portions
of their physiognomy that had brought much of the desires that
made for destructive forces in their own experience; and these
then were of those ABOUT them that were given as meat, or used
as same - that partook of the herbs. These were those same herbs
that the seed were to have been for food for the man in self,
and only those that partook of same may be called even CLEAN -
in the present day. Those that supply those same materials that
are the proper building for the forces within the anatomical
forces, or physiological forces, of a developing body; for these
carry all the elements in their natural state. Little of
minerals should ever be the properties within the system, save
as may be taken through the vegetable forces, save where
individuals have so laxed themselves as to require or need that
which will make for an even balance of same.
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2. EC: Yes, we have the information
that has been given through these channels regarding the
development of individual lives and their respective
personalities, as these in their development got farther and
farther away from those impelling forces that made them one in
body, mind and spirit, with the universal consciousness.
3. As these that were projections upon this plane of man's
making began to multiply, and to attach themselves to the
various activities that made for the sustaining of those forces
that are most predominant in the living creatures (that of
self-preservation and propagation), with these developments of
self, the ego, the I Am, there began the developments towards
that gratifying in material senses those forces manifest in
their beings; as those that made for amusement, those that made
for the preserving of thoughts in their developing forces as
towards material - now, rather than towards its continued
associations from that which it received its impulse. The "its",
now, is the man!
4. In the first, then, we find the necessity of now supplying
its own foods, its own protection, its own activities for
amusements, for developments, for its associations one with
another, and - as given - then selfishness, and the desire to
excel, the desire to place self as in control of, in the
supervision of, those things or others about same, gradually
developed households, groups, clans, masses, then originally -
or eventually - in that known as various groups, houses, or
nations. With these developments came then the gradual
injections of the use of elements from without for protection,
as implements with which to protect themselves, which began with
the use of FITTING stone, iron, brass, copper, and those
elements known in the present, as instruments of warfare, or of
building, or of preservation of the various emoluments of
individuals. Hence we had also those for ornamentation of the
body, ornamentation of the abode, ornamentation of the various
surroundings that had to do with the individuals in their
various sets, classes, or groups. These made for such as dwelt
in groups in homes or cities, while others made for those as of
following the field, or those as of the hunters, or those as of
the agriculturists, or those that had herds, and their various
necessities that followed with these.
5. In their various developments, we find in various periods of
the beginning, some were given to the one and some given to the
other. These as the necessity and the surroundings demanded that
those bring in the experience of the entities that it brought to
pass; for was it still not those that were of creation in
itself? and it followed in the examples, then, of that about it
- called nature - that built according to its instinctive
forces. Hence the first became dwellers in the rocks, in the
caves, and those also that made their homes or nests, as it
were, in the trees and in the various things that surrounded
their environs. Then began the correlation, or the coordinating
of combined forces of a household, which made for the building
up of that as became the clans in their varied activities, those
of a nature builded together as for that in which those groups
or those clans followed in their line, these keeping in touch
with those various others according to their necessities of
dispensing or disposing of, or to meet with the needs for the
various individual groups.
6. Ready for questions.
7. (Q) Describe briefly one of the large cities of Atlantis at
the height of its commercial and material prosperity, giving
name and location.
(A) This we find in that as called Poseida, or the city that was
built upon the hill that overlooked the waters of Parfa (?), and
in the vicinity also the egress and entrance to the waters from
which, through which, many of the people passed in their
association with, or connection with, those of the outside walls
or countries. This we find not an altogether walled city, but a
portion of same built so that the waters of these rivers became
as the pools about which both sacrifice and sport, and those
necessities for the cleansing of body, home and all, were
obtained, and these - as we find - were brought by large ducts
or canals into these portions for the preservation, and yet kept
constantly in motion so that it purified itself in its course;
for, as we find, as is seen, water in motion over stone or those
various forces in the natural forces purifies itself in twenty
feet of space.
In the type of the buildings, these were much in that of tiers -
one upon the another, save principally in the temples - that
were about the sacred fires where these were offered, the
sacrifices that were gradually builded by the people in their
attempt to appease those forces in nature, and from which we
find there came all those forms in the various portions of the
earth in which these were carried in their necessary channels,
to make for the variations in its surroundings and the
conditions thereunto. In this temple, we find these of large or
semi-circular columns of onyx, topaz, and inlaid with beryl,
amethyst, and stones that made the variations in catching the
rays of the sun. Hence a portion of same became as the sun
worshippers in other portions, from which there were an egress
of the peoples.
In this the sacred fires burned, and there were the rising of
the intermittent fires that came and went, that were later
worshipped by some that brought on much of the destruction,
because they waited long at the period before the destructions
came. These were those places where there became eventually the
necessity of offering human sacrifices, which when put into
fires became the ashes that were cast upon the waters for the
drinking of same by those that were made prisoners from portions
of other lands.
In the setting up of same, these in the temple ruled - rather
than those who held official positions in carrying out the
orders of those in these positions.
These, as to the manner of the buildings, were of the outer
court - or where groups or masses might collect. The inner,
those that were of a select group, or those of the second
chambers. Those of the inner court, or shrine about the altar,
were only for the elect, or the chosen few.
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6. (Q) Are the places designated for
the beginning of the five races correct?
(A) As we find, these are changed, in that: Those in the Gobi,
the yellow. The white - rather in the Carpathians than India,
though this is the change to which they are made. The red, of
course, in the Atlantean and in the American. The brown in the
Andean. The black in the plain and the Sudan, or in African.
7. (Q) Where was the Carpathian region?
(A) Aarat.
8. (Q) Where is the location? Is it on the map today?
(A) Southern part of Europe and Russia, and Persia and that
land. Caucasian mountains.
9. (Q) Why was the number five selected for the projection of
the five races?
(A) This, as we find, is that element which represents man in
his physical form, and the attributes to which he may become
conscious FROM the elemental or spiritual to the physical
consciousness. As the senses; as the sensing OF the various
forces that bring to man the activities in the sphere in which
he finds himself.
This, to be sure, may be expanded upon. This must bear in the
same relation to that as did exist, to the promise that He will
come again. Does any individual group think of themselves so
exalted as that only to one peoples will He appear as in the
beginning, so shall it ever be, that man's indwelling must
recognize that not only must his desires carnally be crucified,
but all elements that make for the awareness OF the spiritual
manifestations in the material plane!
10. (Q) Did the appearance of what became the five races occur
simultaneously?
(A) Occurred at once.
11. (Q) Describe the earth's surface at the period of the
appearance of the five projections.
(A) This has been given. In the first, or that known as the
beginning, or in the Caucasian and Carpathian, or the Garden of
Eden, in that land which lies now much in the desert, yet much
in mountain and much in the rolling lands there. The extreme
northern portions were then the southern portions, or the polar
regions were then turned to where they occupied more of the
tropical and semi-tropical regions; hence it would be hard to
discern or disseminate the change. The Nile entered into the
Atlantic Ocean. What is now the Sahara was an inhabited land and
very fertile. What is now the central portion of this country,
or the Mississippi basin, was then all in the ocean; only the
plateau was existent, or the regions that are now portions of
Nevada, Utah and Arizona formed the greater part of what we know
as the United States. That along the Atlantic board formed the
outer portion then, or the lowlands of Atlantis. The Andean, or
the Pacific coast of South America, occupied then the extreme
western portion of Lemuria. The Urals and the northern regions
of same were turned into a tropical land. The desert in the
Mongolian land was then the fertile portion. This may enable you
to form SOME concept of the status of the earth's
representations at that time! The oceans were then turned about;
they no longer bear their names, yet from whence obtained they
their names? What is the legend, even, as to their names? [See
Source File Key #2746 for 4/41 Comdr. Wynne's map of coming
rising Atlantis, re 2746-3.]
12. (Q) Are the following the correct places? Atlantean, the
red.
(A) Atlantean and American, the red race.
13. (Q) Upper Africa for the black?
(A) Or what would be known now as the more WESTERN portion of
upper Egypt for the black. You see, with the changes - when
there came the uprisings in the Atlantean land, and the
sojourning southward - with the turning of the axis, the white
and yellow races came more into that portion of Egypt, India,
Persia and Arabia.
14. (Q) There was no original projection in upper India?
(A) This was a portion rather of the white and the yellow as
represented. Let these represent the attributes of the physical,
or the senses and what forms they take, rather than calling them
white, black, yellow, red and green, etc. What do they signify
in the SENSING? Sight, vision - white. Feeling - red. Black -
gratifying of appetites in the senses. Yellow - mingling in the
hearing. What is the law of the peoples that these represent?
Their basic thoughts run to those elements!
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