April 29, 1995

Freddie, Laura, Terry and Jan

Q: (L) Hello. Good evening.
A: Hello, good evening!

Q: (L) Who do we have with us?
A: Toria.

Q: (L) And where are you from, Toria?
A: Cassiopaea.

Q: (L) Well, we were a little late getting started tonight and I expect you have been waiting. The energy has been generating in the room.
A: Terry, was it October, 1964?

Q: (L) To what does this question refer?
A: Ask Terry! Lake, yellow brick and brown brick buildings, cool day, fences, large cobalt colored cylinder, oscillating...

Q: (T) I would have been 14.
( L) I bet they are talking about an abduction...
( T) I was a freshman... my father’s cousin had a place at Kuka lake and we used to go there and visit all the time... fences? I don’t remember anything. I’m sorry. I’m drawing a blank.
A: Images we see...

Q: (L) Do these images relate to an event that occurred in Terry’s life?
A: Ask... Now we see victorian houses, green gabled roof... field... brown brick buildings...

Q: (L) Is this significant? We have a number of questions to get to...
A: Just “go with the flow.” Directing “traffic” may restrict...

Q: (L) I want to know why my arm is hurting so bad right this minute.
A: Mental concentration on same.

Q: (J) Stop thinking about it.
( Susan) Don’t dwell on it.
A: Think about mayo instead.

Q: (T) Mayo clinic.
( J) Mayonnaise?
A: No.

Q: (T) Is the cortisone helping at all?

(L) It’s not my left shoulder that’s hurting, it’s my right!

(J) Think about Mayo instead?

(L) Maybe it’s Terry who should think about Mayo?

(T) Me?
A: No. Laura.

Q: (T) October?
A: We asked you.

Q: (T) Were there other people who saw this also?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) My mother?
A: Mother, brother.

Q: (T) Were there any neighbors who saw this?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) Did my father see it?
A: ?

Q: (T) Dark blue?
(J) Cobalt blue.
( T) Dark blue, almost a black color?
(J)
Cobalt is a bright blue.
A: Cobalt is metallic navy blue.

Q: (T) Well, Glenn wasn’t home...
A: Another locus.

Q: (T) I know what you are talking about! Yes, I did see something. I don’t know if it was in October of 1964, but I remember seeing it!
A: Okay, now we are getting somewhere... what do you think happened to you that day?

Q: (T) I don’t remember anything happening other than that I saw the object; it came floating over the house and then floated off in the other direction. I don’t remember anything else happening. I stood outside watched it come, watched it go; and I stood outside and watched it for quite some time.
A: Neighborhood, what appearance?

Q: (T) It looked just like the neighborhood. It didn’t seem any different. I don’t remember...
A: Describe...

Q: (T) There was a fifties development out on the edge of the city limits of Rochester, surrounded by most of Kodak, out in that area, most of Rochester, across the street was a field with a schoolyard surrounded by a fence. A large, two-story brown school building, brown, or red brick... that I went to grammar school in. I don’t know about yellow brick buildings, but our house was green at the time and the next door neighbor’s house was yellow at the time with white fancy little trim stuff across the roof.
( L) Victorian.
( T) It wasn’t gabled, but it looked gabled. There were little gables over the front doors of most of the houses. The doors came out to the front and there was a little peak.
( J) Almost like a little porch... (Terry to Jan) You were in the house, you saw what it looked like?

(J) Yes.
( T) There was a stadium on the other side of the school yard, a ways back for Aquinas football games, their stadium. Some fields and one of the last remaining wooded areas that was in the city limits that wasn’t a park down the street... a set of railroad tracks about five blocks to the East. The lake, lake Ontario, Rochester is right up against it, we were about seven miles, eight miles from there, maybe ten, I used to ride up there on my bike and back... the neighborhood itself didn’t look any different because I watched the thing come in over the field. I remember my mother, I don’t know if my brother was there, but I remember my mother and my neighbor. The neighbor woman was standing out on the front walk talking and they called me because I was in the house watching tv. I don’t know if it was October though because it was still warm, sunny. It came in from high over the West, over a field, by the stadium, came down toward us, came right toward us. I thought it was moving right at us. It didn’t start moving right at us until we were looking at it...
A: Was.

Q: (T) Yes. Was moving toward us. It seemed to change direction when I came out and started looking at it. It went right over and...
A: Objective was you.

Q: (T) The objective was me? I don’t think I was picked up at that time.
A: Oh yeah?

Q: (T) Well there were people standing there...
( L) Doesn’t matter.
A: Time “freezes” during abduction.

Q: (T) The object had the distinctive falling leaf motion to it which I thought was an extremely odd thing for it to do. It came right over the edge of the house on the side of the house, where, sometime in the future, I had that thing happen to me when I was in the basement. It was right over where I would have been sleeping...
A: Oscillating.

Q: (T) I thought it sure looked metallic and I wished I had a little pellet gun and could pop a pellet at it; it wasn’t more than about 50 feet up in the air. It was maybe 10 to 15 feet long and maybe about 3 or 4 feet around. It looked like _____ rounded on both ends but not as fat; it was longer and thinner.
( F) It looked like a hotdog?
(T) It looked metallic to me. It was smooth, perfectly smooth.
( L) What are we getting to here? This was obviously brought up for a reason. If Terry was abducted...
A: Crossroads.

Q: (L) It was a crossroads in Terry’s life?
A: And now... connection completed.

Q: (T) I’m not following this...
A: Access your recent dreams.

Q: (L) That was a crossroads then and that connection is completed now...
( T) Recent dreams... I dreamed something about moving into a building and I had something that had a power cord or something that went outside... a connection of some kind...
( L) Is this the dream we are talking about here?
A: Ask Terry.

Q: (T) I don’t remember them... they are just very vivid. Could something have happened to me just recently that started with that experience?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) It has to do with what we are doing here, but this isn’t the completed connection we are talking about?
A: Not exactly.

Q: (T) The connection that was completed was all about something else?
A: Interrelated.

Q: (T) Did something happen to me just recently?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) Something I am not aware of?
A: No.

Q: (T) Does it have to do with my job?
A: In part.

Q: (T) Does it have to do with the fact that I am saying certain things to people at work, or wherever I can, when I talk about events that are happening these days and trying to raise their level of thinking on these things?
A: Yes, now, let’s explore your friends and relationships and experiences in the years immediately following the event to see if we can “dig up” something of startling significance!!!

Q: (T) Are we sure this is 1964 and not 1974?
A: Terry, you know better!

Q: (T) I’m just asking because that event and the event that happened in winter with the voices outside the window and all the weirdness that happened that night seemed to be a lot closer together and that other event happened in the 70s, sometime. That was somewhere close to my trip out to Arizona and the weirdness out there with the car and all that.
( L) Is that what you guys are talking about, the trip to Arizona and the voices and all that?
A: Oh, there is sooooo much, isn’t there Terry! It is time to divulge.

Q: (L) Okay, Terry, we’re waiting. What happened in the year 1964 and the year following?
(T) In the year following I was 15.
( L) Who were your friends and what kind of relationships did you have? What were you doing?
(Susan) How did you feel about everybody after this event?

(T) In a way, but it was not immediate. After high school. But, in those days I was mainly hanging out with some people I met over at Edison. Tom ___, a lot of people named Tom. I used to go to the lake and take drives around it at night. We just used up gas. I felt comfortable because I did a lot of things but most of the people I knew didn’t get along with each other. I still do this today, I have learned from hard experience that I can’t mix my friends. I learned at that time that every person in any group that had a counterpart in any other group. Groups may be different, but they all have the same make-up, and I was always “my” person in each of a number of groups. There was nobody in any of the groups I hung out with that was like me; I was that individual for several groups.
( L) Is this the issue here?
A: No.

Q: (T) Does it have to do with when I got my driver’s license and we all used to drive around a lot out in the country? We drove all through the lakes area...
A: Some.

Q: (T) We used to drive all through the hills out there at night... long drives.
(L) Did something happen on one of these drives?
A: Maybe 0...

Q: (T) Maybe nothing.
( L) What is the objective of this particular line?
(T) Does this have something to do with that bizarre town I came across one night and never was able to find again? Is that tied in here somehow?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) Strangest town I have ever seen. Talk about David Lynch! (J) Divulge.
( T) I was driving down through southwest New York one night. I was out of high school. I used to get stoned then too, so a lot of my experiences aren’t dependable because I got stoned. I went through a town one night down there in the Southern Tier, in the fingerlakes area, and it was the strangest thing. I have been through all these little towns, and there’s usually people and stuff. Not a lot, but at least somebody around. It was about nine or ten o’clock, and I went through this town; it was two story buildings built right up to this 2 lane main street, with a little narrow sidewalk, and it was like driving into a canyon, and the buildings went straight up into the air. There was a street light every so far, but they were those little yellowish bulbs that don’t cast much light on the street. There was absolutely nobody out there. There was nobody in any of the buildings, they were all boarded up and shut down. It looked like a town but it didn’t look like a town. It went about four blocks. I came back out of it, turned around and drove through it again because I didn’t believe it. I could never find it again, and I didn’t know the name of it.
A: Discover.

Q: (Susan) It was the Twilight Zone...
( T) Was this town...
A: Yes.

Q: (L) You drove into another reality.
( T) It wasn’t really a town, was it?
A: Nope.

Q: (T) It gave me the willies. And, I turned around and drove through it a second time because I didn’t believe it was there. (Susan) Were you by yourself?
(T) Yes, I was all alone. There was nobody out there. One signal light that looked like it was out of the 1920s; old street lamps... like a ghost town, literally.
( L) What are you guys trying to tell us here about Terry, through Terry? We are big kids now, we can take it.
A: Not the issue.

Q: (L) What is the issue?
A: Learning increases power.

Q: (L) Okay, what are we trying to learn here in this walk down memory lane?
A: How many times do you learn when led by the hand, network! [Break to discuss Terry’s experiences.]

Q: (L) Are we getting anywhere?
A: It’s all interrelated.

Q: (L) It is interrelated with what. What event that just occurred... has it been our period of attack?
A: No.

Q: (L) The event that just occurred is private to Terry and happened in his life only?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) Each of my relationships was with an individual who thought for themselves, they understood things, they had their own experiences that were different from most people, and knew that most people could not relate or understand. It doesn’t have to be abduction experiences, but they have had life experiences...
A: Yes, but that is the sign of something more significant.

Q: (L) So, in other words, the fact that Terry...
( T) Is it that these relationships formed and shaped who I am today because these people and I shared these different things with each other?
A: No.

Q: (L) No, I think it is the fact that you were able to form friendships with these people of all different kinds, that that was the sign of something significant. The thing that flashed through my mind is: are you a messenger, are you a catalyst?
A: No.

Q: (L) Did he have something or did he do something in his interactions with these people that caused...
A: No.

Q: (L) Did any of them do something where he was concerned?
A: No.

Q: (T) Is it the fact that I am able to form relationships with vastly different types of individuals?
A: All originate from same “plane.”

Q: (L) In other words, he formed relationships with others like himself? And, did they all originate from the same plane, as in somewhere else?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Well, we are getting somewhere. And was this ship that he saw from that plane or place of origin?
A: No.

Q: (L) Did this ship have a lot to do with interacting with all of these other people that Terry formed friendships and relationships with subsequent to this time?
A: Yes, but not central issue.

Q: (L) The central issue is that Terry and all of these other people that he formed relationships with...
( T) Do we all share a common experience?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Do they all share a common origin?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) And what is that origin?
A: Neormm.

Q: (L) Neormm?
A: Closest English equivalent.

Q: (L) Is that a place?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Where is it?
A: Check star guides.

Q: (T) Is this a star? All of us are from another star that I’ve formed relationships like that; the special ones that I would consider lasting?
A: In perpendicular reality.

Q: (T) Am I the Orion we are looking for?
A: No.

Q: (L) Is Jan one of these too?
A: No.

Q: (L) Jan! (J) What?
(L) Why not?
(J) I don’t know! (T) I’m confused.
( J) What is the significance of my relationship with Terry, then?
(L) Humanize him?
[Laughter.]
A: Open.

Q: (T) It’s an open relationship! (J) No it’s not. It’s a marriage. Sorry! (T) You’re the one who wanted it! We were fine for 27 years...
( F) Was it that long?
(T) No, it only felt that way.
( L) Alright! Where are we now? We have discovered that Terry has a perpendicular reality that has been running through his life and probably is an ongoing thing, is this correct?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) What is a perpendicular reality?
(L) It’s a perpendicular reality! (T) Oh, well, thank you! That explains it all.
( L) Well, you have side by side alternate realities, this one goes this way [gestures up and down]
A: Intersection is at realm border.

Q: (L) So, in other words, you could follow along in your mind to the realm border because you have an intersecting reality with it. Is that correct?
A: No.

Q: (L) Well, I tried.
( T) It sounded good to me. I have an escape hatch!
A: They merge.

Q: (L) Okay, we have discovered the significance of the fact that Terry is part alien with a perpendicular alien reality that causes him to interact with other people who also have these perpendicular realities. What’s the point? [Laughter] (Susan) Something to do! (J) It’s a hobby.
A: “Point” is 3rd density concept, and you need “refresher” course!

Q: (T) Remedial Cassiopaean.
( L) Well, I am just trying to understand what this whole thing is all about. What are we getting at here?
A: Then learn from what we communicate to you and what you already have “locked up” inside of you i.e. time to get the key!

Q: (L) Do we have to look at our own stuff this way?
(J) Does this have anything to do with the fact that Laura just spent the past day and a half...
A: Please stop trying to “push” us this way and that, and just learn freely.

Q: (L) What I think is, maybe everybody does this, right now on the planet. There are always different groups that are forming connections with other people with whom they share an alternate reality.
( J) In other words, we are all being attracted to each other?
(F) Right. That makes sense.
( L) In which case, what alternate reality do we share or do we share no alternate reality and are each representatives of an alternate reality different from each other and are a connection point?
A: Latter concept is exactly correct!

Q: (T) We are what is common to each other in our group?
A: What did we say about increasing power?

Q: (L) So, in other words, each one of us is connected to our own reality and groups of our own realities and...
A: Read back now Jan.

Q: (L) I have heard the concept, written or talked about, that certain people, or perhaps everybody, have locked up inside themselves pockets of energy or knowledge as in electromagnetic patterning in their fields...
A: Like putting together the pieces of the puzzle.

Q: (L) We are the pieces of the puzzle?
(J) Yeah, we’ve known that.
A: Draw on a piece of paper one perpendicular intersection.

Q: [We get paper and draw figure.] (L) Like that?
A: No, make it like an upside down “T”

Q: (L) Okay, this is it. [Draws figure] Now...
A: Use next page, and this time draw it near but not at lower left corner.

Q: (L) Is that okay?
A: That is at llc. Too close.

Q: [We try again.]
A: Make it much smaller.

Q: [We try again] (L) Is that okay?
A: Close to center.

Q: [We try again.] (L) Is that better?
A: Now, connect to another.

Q: (T) Above it or below it?
A: Make it slightly different angle.

Q: [We try.] (L) Like that?
A: Try again.

Q: [Terry tries] (T) I think I am getting what they want.
( L) Is that it?
A: No.

Q: [Terry tries again]
A: Connect bases.

Q: [Terry tries again] (L) Why don’t you just draw it on the board for us? [Clamps pencil next to planchette on piece of paper] Okay guys, draw! [The planchette draws the figure.]
A: Continue...

Q: (J) Is it a spiral?
A: No.

Q: [Terry draws figure which looks like polygon with perpendicular extensions to each side.] Is that the idea?
A: Now, circularize base. Now enclose with outer circle. Now, make clean copy
on another page.

Q: (J) Is this a crop circle?
A: Has been done, yes. Designates union of perpendicular realities.

Q: (L) Was the town that Terry went through one of the perpendicular reality towns?
A: Close. Need seven spokes.

Q: (L) Each person in the group is a spoke?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are we ultimately going to have seven spokes?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) Are the five of us here, five of those spokes?
A: Open.

Q: (T) That was diplomatic, wasn’t it? Is there more to this concept?
A: Of course!

Q: (L) Once the seven spokes are in place in terms of persons, is that going to increase our power/knowledge exponentially?
A: Explosively.

Q: (L) Is this why there has been so much attack and so many attempts to stop this process?
A: Partly.

Q: (T) Okay, we have the image on the paper with seven spokes. What do we do with it next?
A: Open.

Q: (T) Okay, this is just this lesson.
( L) What is in the center of the circle?
A: Will fall into place, now you must ponder the significance and we must say goodnight!

End of Session

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May 7, 1995

Freddie, Laura, Terry and Jan, SV

Q: (T) Good evening.
A: Okay.

Q: (L) Who do we have with us this evening?
A: Myip.

Q: (L) And where are you from?
A: Cassiopaea.

Q: (L) Okay, we have a series of questions we would like to get into this evening. Is that going to be alright? Or do you have plans already?
A: Some.

Q: (L) You have some plans or we can ask some questions?
A: Both.

Q: (L) Once again, since the thought was just stimulated by the sight of same, what is the story with the roaches in my house? Why are they coming in in such numbers?
A: Open.

Q: (L) Well, there are all kinds of cracks and crevices for them to crawl in through, but usually, they don’t.
A: Scent food.

Q: (L) They scent food and that is what they come in for?
A: One reason.

Q: (T) What’s another reason?
A: Suggest electronic bug discourager.

Q: (L) You mean a bug zapper?
(SV) Not the ones that zap them, just the ones that discourage them.
( T) Won’t that frequency interfere with the channel?
A: Silly question.

Q: (J) I didn’t think so.
( L) I didn’t either. I mean, it’s a frequency.
A: Too strong now is why.

Q: (L) Okay, let’s kick into a couple of our questions here. The first one is: Who were the Sumerians?
A: Study mathematics.

Q: (L) Study mathematics? Is that the answer?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Who should study mathematics?
A: You.

Q: (L) Is there something about mathematics that will tell me who they were?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Well, I have read about the Sumerians, and I have read the Sitchen material...
A: We are not Sitchen!

Q: (L) How did the Sumerians produce their civilization so suddenly and completely, seemingly out of nowhere?
A: Study mathematics for all possible unanswered pieces of the puzzle!!!
Interpolate and use appropriate computer program, learning now increases your power tenfold, when you use some initiative, rather than asking us for all the answers directly!!!

Q: (L) The first thing that comes to my mind is to enter in all the dates that they have given us, create a data-base, for data, not necessarily written matter, dates of comets, civilizations, archaeological dates, findings, and so forth, and see how it crunches. Was that all the answer there?
(J) I would like to have some more on crop circles.
A: Do you not want an increase in power?

Q: (L) Absolutely. Is there any underlying significance to the Great Year of 25,920 years, that is the precession of the zodiac?
A: See previous answers.

Q: (L) This is one that I don’t know if mathematics will help us out with, but, what is angel hair that has been seen to fall from UFOs?
A: AKA “slag.”

Q: (J) Is it byproduct of the propulsion systems?
A: And of transdimensional maneuvers.

Q: (T) That’s why it dissolves and goes away.
( L) Did you know that Mike Forte has some in a glassine bag that he got somewhere and is certified angel hair! (T) He also has a UFO detector in a cigarette pack!
Q: (L) Okay. On many occasions there have been fiery falls of objects from the sky which leave a gelatinous substance which then disappears. Is there any significance to this that we would be...
A: See previous answer.

Q: (T) Same stuff as angel hair.
( L) Okay, there were very unusual circumstances surrounding the so-called “Great Chicago Fire.” I would like to know if there was any impetus given this fire from other dimensional forces, or was it just a natural phenomenon?
A: Vague.

Q: (L) Well, in specific, there were several people who reported what they described as literally a fiery tornado, or explosion, or fire falling from the sky that just swept upon them so suddenly and so completely that they literally had no time to do anything except barely escape with their lives.
A: Rumours.

Q: (L) Well, there were entire little towns destroyed that weren’t even next to Chicago, and it happened at the same time, supposedly.
A: Makes “good reading.”

Q: (L) Who constructed the great serpent mound in Adams County, Ohio?
A: Armonan sect.

Q: (T) Who are the Armonans?
A: Atlantean descendants.

Q: (T) So, this was a long time ago?
A: (L) Is there anything about them we would be advised to know or learn?
A: “Puzzle pieces.”

Q: (L) What period of time did they live in this area, from when to when?
A: See answers to Sumerian question.

Q: (L) Well, my opinion to this whole thing is that the Sumerians and the Armonans were Atlanteans who set up shop in their respective places when Atlantis went under.
A: Good, now go with that.

Q: (L) I would say that the same answer holds for the White Horse at Uffington, in England?
A: Yup.

Q: (L) Well, that takes care of that. Does someone or something, as in people, or civilizations, or a group, or organization, exist inside Mount Shasta in California?
A: No.

Q: (J) Is there any truth to the rumor of the mystical power surrounding Mount Shasta?
A: Roundabout only.

Q: (T) But, Mount Shasta, itself, doesn’t have any power related to it?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Yes, Mount Shasta, itself, but not any group or entities, is that correct?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is there any reason that we would want to pursue that line of questioning that we are not aware of?
A: Up to you.

Q: (L) Why is an unbearable stench of sulphur associated with Alien bodies and other related phenomena and entities?
A: Chemical interactions.

Q: (L) So, if an alien dies in 3rd density and remains in 3rd density, and decays in 3rd density, that causes a chemical reaction that creates sulphur or related compounds?
A: Bravo!

Q: (J) So, the difference in dimensions creates this?
(L) Would they smell this way if they died in 4th density?
(J) Well, that’s a stupid question because, what is “smell” in 4th density?
(L) Well, it was a trick question!
A: Try to think more like 4th density instead of 3 and 2.

Q: (L) Does this imply, since this is what I am inferring, that the aliens are chemically constructed in 4th density?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Now, Freddie and I both had strange dreams. I dreamed last Sunday that I went outside and there was a whole lot of activity in the sky. There were alien ships shooting at each other and at the ground and it was pretty scary. There were people running around and my husband abandoned me and the children because he was so freaked out by it all. A really strange dream.
A: Stay tuned!

Q: (J) Oh, goody! (L) Was this dream prophetic?
A: Open.

Q: (T) Stay tuned, as in stay tuned during the dream to see what else happens?
A: For more dreams.

Q: (L) Are these dreams giving us information?
A: Open.

Q: (T) I keep having repeating dreams about a female. Who is she?
A: See previous answer, from now on abbreviated as “spa.”

Q: (L) Okay, now I was reading through the transcripts a while ago and it says that a Black Hole is total non- existence which is regenerated at level one. Or, that the regeneration at level one is a reflection of a Black Hole. Is a Black Hole a level one phenomenon or a level seven phenomenon?
A: One through four only.

Q: (L) Is there any representation of the Black Hole phenomenon, that is, total non-existence, at the higher levels, that is, five through seven?
A: See previous answer.

Q: (T) Well, if the Black Hole is pure STS at level one through four, at level five through seven there is only pure STO.
( SV) They said earlier that there was STS at level five and six.
( T) But, that’s reflection.
( L) Thought form.
A: Encapsulated at five.

Q: (L) Is there, after level seven, is there another...
A: No “after seven,” suggest “refresher course” of transcripts!

Q: (L) Well, the question you didn’t let me finish was, is there an octave, does this step up and start the whole thing over like the octaves on a piano?
A: SPA.

Q: (L) Well, there is an awful lot of stuff being touted around about octaves and so forth.
A: Grand cycle, and who is doing the “touting” that you speak of?

Q: (L) One of the persons who talks of the ocatave cycle is Gurdjieff, the Sufi teachings, several of the great philosophical teachings talk about the octave effect. There is the cycle of seven and the next cycle is at a higher level and is called an octave like the segments on the musical scale.
A: Who are we?

Q: (L) The Cassiopaeans.
A: Yes, now, we have volunteered to assist you in your development, yes?

Q: (L) So, throw all that other crap out the window?
A: If there were a level eight, do you think we would have failed to mention it at this point?!?

Q: (J) Good point.
( SV) They forgot! (J) Oh, by the way, did we mention level eight?! (T) Well, maybe these other people are perceiving the recycling as moving into another octave rather than just doing it all over and over. They just haven’t got the information straight yet.
A: There are many who speak, and some who speak the truth!

Q: (J) Yeah, but which ones are speaking the truth?
(L) The truth is out there! But why Seven? What is the significance of the number seven?
A: Why not?

Q: (T) Could there as easily have been eight or nine or six?
A: Is there “significance” to anything?

Q: (L) Only the significance we give it, I guess.
A: And if so, what is that?

Q: (T) Well, it is interesting to me because it means there was a structure to the way things were set up. There must have been a reason it was selected this way as opposed to another way.
A: Really?

Q: (T) It didn’t just happen. Nothing just happens! (J) Now, hold on a second, base 10 is because we have 10 fingers.
A: Who says?

Q: (T) You did.
A: Oh yeah?

Q: (L) Are you saying, essentially, that it is the way it is because things are just arbitrarily that way?
A: No, we are trying to teach you how to complete the puzzle.

Q: (T) So the reason it is what it is and why is something we have to figure out.
A: And you have to figure out what is reason?

Q: (T) The reason for what?
(J) For the seven.
A: No. No. No. Pay attention, please. What is reason?

Q: (J) As in reasoning?
A: Much of your learning to this point is based upon assumption of definitions of reality.

Q: (L) And, all of our assumptions are completely wrong?
A: Not all.

Q: (J) Anything that is rooted in 3rd density doesn’t apply in most of these things and that’s where we have to let go.
A: Logic is subjective.

Q: (L) Is symbolic logic as is used in mathematics subjective?
A: No.

Q: (L) But you always come up with different things using math than mentation. Okay. Well, we opened a can of worms here.
( T) We do that every time.
( J) Worms are us! [Laughter]
A: Ongoing project.

Q: (T) Teaching us is an ongoing project.
( J) We are a can of worms. (L) Is there any point in time when these communications will end? [Tape ends abruptly and snaps off to surprised laughter at the synchronicity.]

Q: (L) Was that a symbolic answer to that question?
A: Open.

Q: (T) I want to ask about my dream... I know, “See Previous Answer...” Who is the woman? Who is this being?
A: Stay tuned.

Q: (T) Oh good! This is like a cliff hanger every night! (J) Will there be more installments?
(T) Maybe, because she changed tactics...
A: Laura tired.

Q: (T) Are you tired?
(L) Not any more than normally. Is there any reason for that?
A: Open; suggest caffeine.

Q: (L) Pause for caffeine break! We want to know about this phenomenon of the street lights that go off as Terry and Jan drive down the road sometimes. I know this has happened to me a few times as well. Is there any significance to this phenomenon? Are Terry and Jan causing it, in other words?
A: Maybe.

Q: (L) Can you tell us anything further about that?
A: Discover.

Q: (L) Back a few years ago it seemed that an awful lot of things in my presence tended to break... windows, glasses, kerosene lamp chimneys, car windows, satellite dishes... mechanical objects would die upon my touching them.
A: EM anomalies.

Q: (L) Were these occurring because of something in me or around me?
A: Changes in awareness, etc.

Q: (L) Was there any abduction activity or contact activity going on with me at that time that contributed to this?
A: Discover.

Q: (L) Could Terry and Jan’s experiences with the lights be related to this type of thing?
A: Maybe.

Q: (T) I guess that between open and maybe that maybe is closer to a yes.
( L) It is EM anomalies and changes in awareness.
( J) And, part of it, as I was saying to Terry, is that if you are not aware of what is going on around in your environment, you don’t notice such things.
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Well, in my case, it seemed to be a little more explosive so maybe I was a little more in the dark and had to be hit over the head with a two by four, so to speak.
A: Maybe.

Q: (T) Is that EM wave still circling the planet?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) It hasn’t done whatever it’s going to do, then?
A: Open.

Q: (T) Something else I have noticed, triple negatives throw them off... [Laughter] (J) Well, triple negatives are nasty anyway.
A: Crop circles.

1. A planetary “window.”
2. Astronomical “twin” phenomena etc.
3. Alternating current.
4. Means: Expect to be rewarded at harvest time.

Q: Is this snail formation a hoax?
A: Open.

Q: What does it mean?
A: Open.

5. Buried memory.
6. Train.
7. Longing.
8. Knowledge through conception.
9. Sight provides confirmation.
10. Relay learnings.
11. Communication.

Q: (J) Well, that’s the one they use for their logo.
( T) I wonder if they knew that?
A: Wonder indeed!

12. Passage of knowledge.
13. Find necessary clues by studying cyclical patterns. 14. Family.
15. Season of change.
16. Grand advance.
17. Universe as laboratory.
18. Dimensional crossover.
19. Physical life pictorial.

Q: Why the dead porcupine?
A: Scrambled body chemistry.

Q: Are the porcupines significant in these figures?
A: Learn. You have enough material to digest for now, so good luck and until the next time, goodbye.

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May 13, 1995

Freddie, Laura, Jan and Terry, SV

A: Hello.

Q: (L) Hello.
( J) Did we just have somebody else horn in on the channel?
(L) Who do we have with us?
A: Rolora.

Q: (L) Did somebody else just horn in on the board a moment ago?
A: Maybe.

Q: (L) Well, my mother and I got a Play 4 number on the board the other night and three of the numbers were correct, what source did we get those from?
A: Laumer.

Q: (L) Is he still hanging around?
A: All can “hangaround,” if they choose.

Q: (J) Has my mother ever been present?
A: No.

Q: (L) I would like to ask, since it is probably bugging everybody at the moment, what is the source of this oppressive heat we have been experiencing?
A: Normal weather pattern variation.

Q: (L) Well, why isn’t my air conditioner working well enough to keep the house cool?
A: House was not built with air conditioning in mind.

Q: (L) Well, you got that right. Okay, we have a couple of questions we would like to get into. Jan noticed that there was a symbol on the Windows Wingdings file that is quite similar to the symbol that Ann Bailey uses on her brochures. We would like to know what is the source of this symbol and why the variation?
A: Ethereal memory.

Q: (L) What is the meaning?
A: Interconnection of reality in general.

Q: (L) Is this a useful symbol to use in Reiki?
A: Okay.

Q: (J) Why is it different in the fonts from the one used by Ann Bailey?
A: “Different strokes for different folks.”

Q: (L) Is there anything further on this subject that you can, would, or should give us?
A: No.

Q: (L) Okay, last week we did a spirit release on myself and Susan with Freddie acting as proxy. We also inquired about information about protection for ourselves. Was the information that was given through Freddie, at that time, an accurate portrayal of how we can best protect ourselves?
A: Mostly.

Q: (L) Okay, one of the things that was said was that we don’t really have to worry about cutting people off or out of our lives, but just to be aware of the potential of what they may be carrying, and that this awareness can actually create the barrier. Is this correct?
A: Largely.

Q: (L) Is is also, as I have conjectured, a good idea to sometimes limit contact with people who may be carriers of negative energy, or who may have...
A: In extreme cases.

Q: (L) So, in other words, if a person is extremely toxic, it is best to just stay away from them or limit contact?
A: Good idea.

Q: (J) I would like to ask about the experience Terry and I were having about my emotional imbalances.
( L) Okay... Jan, actually everybody has been experiencing this attack situation...
A: Has caused stomach problems.

Q: (L) Have you been having stomach problems?
(J) No more than usual.
( L) Okay, the situation that Terry and Jan have, that she perceives as attack, was that, in fact, an attack?
A: Some.

Q: (T) What else was involved?
A: Biological changes.

Q: (J) Monthly hormonal?
A: Yes.

Q: (J) That fits.
( L) Susan has been experiencing a situation that I experienced in the past. She perceives a misty presence in her room. What is the source of this presence, this fog?
A: Entity ID “code.”

Q: (L) And what kind of entity is it?
A: Sublinear yeti like.

Q: (T) What does sublinear mean?
A: Scrambled identifier of channel mechanism.

Q: (T) Are we talking about encryption here?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Is it something being sent through the dimensional curtain and does it need Susan’s energy to reassemble itself?
A: No.

Q: (L) Is it having trouble reassembling itself?
A: Chose Susan due to past imprint.

Q: (SV) What do you mean, “Past Imprint?”
A: Past associations have brought about conflicting imprints into your channeling aura.

Q: (L) Is there any way she can change these past associations or imprints?
A: Go to places where traumatic events occurred, and “reload with current aural pattern.”

Q: (SV) Well, that would be all over the country.
( T) Visualize them.
A: Not sufficient, must replace physically.

Q: (T) Is this all over from everywhere, all her life, or just recently?
A: Traumatic events are easily accessible.

Q: (L) In other words, she will know. Okay, since this situation she has experienced was very similar to the one I experienced when I was pregnant with Aletheia, was this similar?
A: No.

Q: (L) What was the fog I experienced?
A: Entity imprint brought on by unusual stress.

Q: (J) Because of the baby?
A: Partly. Pregnancies may cause unusual psychic awareness.

Q: (L) What is the intent of this fog in Susan’s room?
A: Not correct conceptualization.

Q: (SV) Well, I don’t feel any fear, I just wonder if it is eyestrain.
( T) What was the mist I saw the other day?
A: Ozone.

Q: (L) John called today and talked to me a little bit about the Oklahoma bombing. Now, we haven’t talked about it too much... he did bring up some interesting claims. Was the Oklahoma bombing an “inside job,” that is, was it done by agents of the government itself?
A: No!

Q: (L) Okay, was the Oklahoma bombing done by the persons who have been arrested for it?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Was the Oklahoma bombing accomplished by the fertilizer bomb placed in the truck parked outside the building?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) It was not accomplished by any bomb inside the building?
A: No.

Q: (L) Was Timothy McVeigh influenced to do this by forces outside of himself?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Were these forces human or other?
A: Other.

Q: (L) Was it as I have written in my piece “The Politics of Metaphysics?”
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Was that piece essentially channeled?
A: Yes.

Q: (J) Was anything that John said about the size of the bomb correct?
A: No.

Q: (T) Was anything John said about it correct?
A: In general, no.

Q: (T) So he is mouthing rumors or making stuff up, or passing on made-up stuff?
A: Within circles in which he moves.

Q: (J) What circles does he move in?
A: Anti-government militia types.

Q: (T) Is he an agent?
A: Of what sort?

Q: (T) Is he a government agent?
A: No.

Q: (T) Is he a STS agent?
A: Close.

Q: (T) Is he trying to influence things?
A: Forces trying to influence things are working through him.

Q: (T) He is not working for the CIA, or the NSA, or the FBI, or military intelligence, or anything like that?
A: No.

Q: (L) You told us before that he worked for the NSA...
( T) The CIA...
A: CIA stands for Confusion Is Apparent!

Q: (T) He is a Confusion Is Apparent agent?
A: Might as well be.

Q: (J) He’s doing their work but he is not on their payroll.
( T) He is doing as good a job as they are putting out the disinformation.
( L) Earlier we had a discussion about where we wanted to move. My husband has his ideas, we all have our ideas, and we just want to know, in terms of just being happy and content with the surroundings, of the places mentioned: South Dakota, North Carolina, which would be more pleasant?
A: As we have told you before, moving is pointless, as it is a manifestation of 3rd density thinking, and would thus regress you severely. It is not “where you are that matters, it is who and or what you are that counts.”

Q: (L) That is not the point that we were talking about. We were not talking about moving out of fear. We were talking about moving out of the simple desire to not live in this area any longer because we don’t like it! I want to get out of the heat!
A: That is 3rd density in the extreme!!!

Q: (T) That is just something we decided to do, like Noah building the ark, we thought it would be a good idea.
A: Then do it, but don’t expect us to be there!

Q: (L) Since Terry and Jan have the urge to acquire larger space for themselves, what would you propose they do if not move to North Carolina?
A: Does larger space automatically equate long distance move?

Q: (J) No, it doesn’t, but I don’t want to spend the kind of money required to get a larger house in St. Petersburg. This is something we have talked about for a long time.
A: Is St. Petersburg your only option?

Q: (J) We don’t know, we have to find that out. It depends on what happens with jobs and other things.
( L) Is my financial situation blocked because of my plans and ideas about moving?
A: Maybe.

Q: (L) If I changed my thought patterns in that regard, would my financial situation become unblocked?
A: If you open your mind to any and all possibilities, this always unblocks.

Q: (J) Well, that is what we are trying to do, and one of the possibilities is moving to North Carolina.
( L) Okay, I say that I don’t know what the Universe wants me to do. I am just waiting to see, and waiting for direction. What more can I do?
A: Good!

Q: (J) That’s what we are doing. We are trying to open our minds up to all the possibilities. Something may open up here, or in St. Pete, or somewhere else. We don’t know. And, unless we open all the doors to find the one that’s right. We have to shake all the bushes.
A: As long as you wish to communicate with us, and learn from the information we are sharing with you, multitudes of possibilities will present themselves to you.

Q: (L) Does this mean even for my husband, that he will get a good job? Is Lewis’ potential also connected to this communication?
A: If a “good job” is what he desires, yes, however, if others are trying to
convince him that that is what he desires, then there will continue to be blocking of the “flow” taking place! Lewis is of the utmost importance to us!
 

Q: (L) Why do I keep having dreams of him abandoning me and the kids when the UFOs start landing?
A: Discover.

Q: (J) That’s your fear.
( L) Okay, you say he is of the utmost importance. Could you give us a clue about that, please?
A: All are.

Q: (L) Okay, he would like to have some advice as to how to shape his life from this point on?
A: Do what you really want to, and all else will fall into place, but don’t procrastinate or “dream your life away.”

Q: (L) Okay, have we pretty much exhausted this subject and should we move onto something else here?
A: Up to you.

Q: (J) I think we have pretty much exhausted the subject. We don’t know what is going to happen and we are just waiting to see what the Universe has to offer.
A: Good! Cope.

Q: (L) What does cope refer to?
A: You.

Q: (L) I have to cope with what is going on?
A: All.

Q: (J) That’s what we are doing, one day at a time.
A: Laura is dragging so badly that the channel is oscillating. Save for better circumstances.

Q: (L) Then, we will say goodnight.
A: Goodnight.

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May 20, 1995

Freddie, Laura, Jan and Terry, SV

Q: Hello.
A: Two messages.

Q: (L) Who do we have with us?
A: Rituals restrict channel!

Q: (L) We weren’t doing a ritual, we were just surrounding ourselves with light. Is there something wrong with surrounding ourselves with light and creating light energy?
A: Rituals are rituals.

Q: (L) Who do we have with us tonight?
A: Sonow.

Q: (L) And where are you from?
A: Cassiopaea.

Q: (L) Okay, what are the messages?
A: That was one, the other is be careful with exposure to to those who are still blossoming!

Q: (L) And who are they?
(J) The kids were in here.
( L) Do you have any other messages for us this evening?
A: Open.

Q: (L) You are open. Okay. Anna did a viewing the other night of us doing this work. In this viewing she saw us around the table, and she saw a pyramid in the center of the table. What did the pyramid represent?
A: Energy focuser.

Q: (L) She also saw another person standing in a corner. Could you tell us who that person was?
A: Just viewer, you attract a lot of those in 3rd density and 5th density as well!

Q: (L) She also saw a lamp hanging over the table. What does the lamp represent?
A: Not lamp, was light, represents light channel to level 6.

Q: (L) She also saw a green glow surrounding us and green slime oozing out of the pyramid all over our hands. What did this represent?
A: Was interference in reading coming from level 4 STS.

Q: (T) Was this what she saw in reference to last week’s work?
A: General.

Q: (L) Was what she was seeing interference in our work or interference in her viewing?
A: The latter.

Q: (L) So, STS was interfering in her viewing to cast a different light on it?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Okay, last week we received information that said if we moved to North Carolina, that you would not be there. We felt very strange about this because we felt that our connection with you was something that extended throughout space and time. We had a very negative reaction to that. We would like to have comments on that subject.
A: Not point, you were brought together as a result of many confluences of energy transfers for a purpose! You are always free to pursue any path you choose, however, if you concentrate on 3rd level matters such as your physical location, you risk creating rifts within your group! This is because such thoughts and potential actions will strengthen 3rd level STS feelings within each member, thus risking breakup of channel. Now, please realize, you have a unique combination of forces working through all of you that brought you all to this point. This is fragile, and any major changes in the chemistry will inevitably change “the whole picture.”

Q: (L) By “major changes,” do you mean members of the group leaving?
A: We are not finished with the message. If you were to move your physical locator, it would not be possible to satisfy each member equally therefore, rifts would develop. Now, consider this, you have all chosen to be in this location. Some chose this when on level 5 even! So, perceived dissatisfactions with locator are transitory, and like so much else, merely the result and symptomatic of the changes occurring within, as well as 4th level STS attack! Many other groups have been successfully misled by perceived need to relocate, with predictable results! Suggest you avoid joining them!

Q: (F) Based on what has been said before, part of the way we were all brought together was by being physically in proximity to one another.
( J) Right! (F) And if we disrupt that...
( SV) And we chose it, some of us, from 5th level, so it is sort of preordained that we do this. (F) Right! And there are so many factors delicately placed in this situation, that any movement...
( L) It would actually be... if we tried to go and move as a group, someplace else, some of us would be dissatisfied with the idea of moving, and therefore that would actually create personal problems between us which would drive the group apart.
( F) On a small scale, it is similar to when a husband and wife decide to move... “I’ll go because I love you and you want to go...” and then they are miserable.
( SV) The Cayce readings say that many aspects of our lives are decided beforehand on 5th level. So, we must have all gotten together there and decided we were going to all come to New Port Richey and do this! (L) New Port Richey! (J) The reality of our situation is that we want to get out of our tiny little house and into another...
( L) Well, the way this was put, it sounds like you can’t even move out of your house! (J) Oh, no! They have already told us that we can do that! (T) No, they just indicated that we shouldn’t move from this general location. That is the way I understand it.
( L) Last week it was pretty short...
( J) But, on the other hand, maybe they have worked pretty hard getting this project cranked up with all of us being as hard-headed as we are, [Laughter]...
( T) Look how long it took us to get up here! (J) It is not like this is new... Terry and I have been talking about moving for years... we may do it someday.
( SV) I like it here.
( T) We don’t know what is going to transpire.
( F) If everybody decided together to go to North Carolina...
( L) And we were all happy with the decision...
( F) But right now I don’t feel like going there...
( L) And LM doesn’t...
( F) Something else interesting about dissatisfaction being transitory and part of inner changes and attack... I am not dissatisfied with where I am physically, but with who I am and what I am and everything else in my life, which would be precisely the same if I were in North Carolina...
( L) It wouldn’t matter, your physical location wouldn’t matter...
( F) Right, so...
( J) Our situation is that we have to get out of that house.
( F) Well, let’s ask...
( L) I think we should ask if we were all equally agreed to go to another location, would the channel work someplace else?
A: Yes, but that is unlikely.

Q: (J) We know that.
( L) This leads to the assumption and the realization, which I have long held, and have picked at, and maybe it is time for you guys to take the gloves off, what is it that is going on here? Obviously things have been brought to a certain point for a reason. You have hinted at things, alluded to things, you have...
A: You will discover this as the process continues to unfold, if you were to be given a “preview” you would become “unglued.”

Q: (L) I don’t want to know! (T) Give me a preview! (L) We don’t want a preview! (J) We have been having some pretty weird dreams here...
A: No.

Q: (T) Is this group complete?
A: Open.

Q: (T) Are there others yet to come?
A: Very distinct possibility.

Q: (T) That may be part of why we can’t move, if there are others around here that are supposed to come.
( J) I think as far as the group moving...
( T) There are others that are supposed to come, they are not here yet...
( J) It would have to be... in order for the group to be able to move as a group, Susan and Fred and LM would have to change their minds about wanting to move...
( T) No, no, no...
( J) Yes...
( T) If we were to move the thing... there are others who are supposed to be in this group and they are not here yet, so it is not the right timing... if we were all in agreement to move... we don’t have the whole group and there would be no way for the rest of the group to get to us...
( L) The statement was made that we all chose to be here, is that correct?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) And we have chosen to work together for a distinct purpose, is that correct?
A: Close.

Q: (L) And we have all, whether together or individually, we all have a very distinct purpose and pathway to follow in this life that was pre-chosen and pre-set, is that correct?
A: That is true for all on level three.

Q: (L) And there is no one in this room who is here by mistake, is that correct?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) And there is no one in this room who doesn’t need to get about finding out what their purpose is by doing each day what is in front of them, is that correct?
A: Close. But, beware of attack and desires to “push” things in any given direction, which is a manifestation of attack! Just let things fall into place naturally!

Q: (L) Okay.
( J) Can you give any input as to Terry’s and my situation, regarding our house being too small, and needing to find something else?
A: There is no reason you cannot move from your current residence.

Q: (L) Okay, a strange thing happened the other day. Our neighbor, who has always been kind of aloof from us, came over and offered LM help in getting a job. Why?
A: We will occasionally throw “perks” in your direction, just to help you out, when you have had periods of equally balanced misfortune!

Q: (L) Well, is he going to get the job?
A: Up to LM, these are perks, not guarantees. In other words, we do not lead by the hand.

Q: (L) Well, if you can get him into a job, I thank you.
A: You are welcome.

Q: (L) Now, about the conference.
( T) Is it all on the up and up?
A: No.

Q: (T) As far as the speakers go?
A: No.

Q: (T) Was Mr. O’Leary playing with a full deck?
A: Open.

Q: [Laughter] (L) How about our putting our brochure out there?
(T) Yes, was it a good idea the way we did it?
A: Might be wise to be controlled in distribution methods, rather than scattering “to the four winds.”

Q: (L) But you said to rattle the bushes.
( J) Should I not give Greenan more copies of the brochure?
A: Open.

Q: (L) Are you saying that what we did was a good idea because it was for a specific audience rather than random distribution?
A: You have been less than careful to this point.

Q: (L) Well when we asked you beforehand, you wouldn’t tell us anything. Why are you saying this post-event? Post facto!
A: Discover. By the way, rattling the bushes can be accomplished with a broom, not only a howitzer.

Q: (L) Well, we thought we were being very restrained in what we put out...
A: Recently, you have settled down some, yes.

Q: (L) What do you mean “recently” we have settled down some? Is that me, specifically?
A: Earlier, you were less careful than now.

Q: (T) That was before you started telling us about the people that are waiting to eat us alive! (L) That is before we had all our attacks. We have been discussing the idea of putting this information out on the computer net.
A: Okay, but suggest no bylines, or “handles.”

Q: (T) In other words, don’t put our names out there?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) Well, we were talking about not putting the bio on the net, just the channel info and address for more info.
A: Up to you.

Q: (J) I think we could do a condensed bio with no names...
( L) Well, why don’t we put there naked? For all they know, the Cassiopaeans downloaded it themselves.
( T) They will be able to ID us.
( L) Well, previously, you were very interested in us getting on the computer net. AOL was not worth the money....
A: Your opinion and you were characteristically impatient.

Q: (L) Well, I wasn’t so impatient as broke. I was paying long distance charges and the net cost me over $150. dollars that month.
A: You were not aware of tremendous progress made, due to “tunnel vision” and preconceived notions of what defines progress.

Q: (T) Were you using the message boards?
(L) No, I didn’t know how and I couldn’t afford to hack through the system and figure it out. (T) Well, if I had known, I would have showed you how.
( L) See, it wasn’t my fault, it was Terry’s. He didn’t show me how to use the thing! I was paying by the hour, not just impatient.
A: We did not place individual blame.

Q: (J) We need to plan a little bit more.
( L) We want to know if there are really underground tunnels all over the place that many people have reported being taken to in alien abductions?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) Have they been there a long time?
A: Subjective.

Q: (T) Do they predate humanity?
A: A few.

Q: (T) Are they equivalent of subway tunnels, to get from one place to another?
A: Okay.

Q: (T) Is there a set of trains or whatever to move from place to place?
A: No.

Q: (T) Is there any kind of high tech gear in place in these tunnels to move from place to place?
A: Subjective.

Q: (L) How do they travel through these tunnels?
A: Electromagnetically.

Q: (T) Can individuals be transported through the tunnels without benefit of equipment? Or do they use some kind of gadgetry?
A: All of the above.

Q: (L) Who occupies these tunnels?
A: Various.

Q: (T) Are there still beings in there?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) Are humans involved in this?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) Were there humans involved in digging some of these tunnels?
A: Some.

Q: (T) Before that, there were other beings that were not human?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) Are those other beings still down there?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) Is this a worldwide network of tunnels?
A: No.

Q: (T) Where are most of the tunnels?
A: North America, since that is the “capitol” of STS, currently.

Q: (T) Are there other tunnel systems other than in North America?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) Does it depend on where the STS alignment is as to whether they are operational?
A: Not point, just single factor.

Q: (T) Do any of the tunnels lead to Antarctica?
A: No.

Q: (T) Is there any way of getting to Antarctica through the tunnel systems even if you have to come to the surface occasionally?
A: Okay.

Q: (L) Are humans ever taken into these tunnels or places underground...
( T) Against their will?
A: Sometimes.

Q: (T) Is there some kind of underground base in Antarctica?
A: Yes. Eight.

Q: (T) Are they related to the tunnels in time?
A: Vague.

Q: (T) Were any of those bases underground in Antarctica built by the Germans during World War II?
A: Sect.

Q: (T) Nazis?
A: Remember, all is structured in cycles and circles.

Q: (L) In other words, these tunnels were built by and belong to the Consortium, is that correct?
A: Circles within circles.

Q: (L) Masons?
A: One example of concept.

Q: (T) Jan and I have a friend who has told us about someone she knew who found entrances to tunnel systems in North America. One of the entrances was in the Airondacks, another was in the Mammoth cave system. Was what she was told true?
A: Yes, but there are thousands of entrances. Are you ready for a “shocker?”

Q: (J) Oh, you know we are always ready for a shocker.
( L) Sure! (T) Okay, give us the shocker.
( J) We’re ready!
A: There is a tunnel right beneath your feet!

Q: (J) I knew they were going to say that.
( T) Of course! Is that where the digging is going to go from the basement?
A: Up to you!

Q: (L) How deep under our feet?
A: 2000 feet.

Q: (T) Is anything moving in that tunnel?
A: Vague.

Q: (T) Is that tunnel being used?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Right at this second?
A: Open.

Q: (L) Who uses it more than anybody else?
A: Open.

Q: (T) Are there humans down there?
A: Have been, listen for sound anomalies such as loud sonic boom like noises and vague motorized sounds.

Q: (L) Is there any kind of electronic gadgetry down there causing my appliances to keep breaking down?
A: Maybe.

Q: (L) What is wrong with my air conditioner?
A: Fuse.

Q: (SV) Does this tunnel hook up with the doorway in the old stone house on Grand Boulevard that nobody has been able to open or cut through?
A: Open.

Q: (T) Is there an entrance to this tunnel underneath us somewhere in this area?
A: Near power plant.

Q: (T) Crystal River?
(L) No, Anclote.
( T) Is that why the power plant is built there?
A: Related; old Nike base.

Q: (T) What direction does this tunnel run that is underneath us?
A: East - West.

Q: (T) Out under the Gulf of Mexico?
A: No.

Q: (T) Where does the West end?
A: Just described.

Q: (L) The power plant.
( T) Okay, where does the East end go?
A: Near Lakeland.

Q: (T) What is in Lakeland that would have a tunnel entrance in it? Why Lakeland?
A: Not issue.

Q: (L) What is on the surface may have no relationship to the tunnel.
A: Transfer point and redirector.

Q: (T) Is there another tunnel that comes into this tunnel, that intersects this tunnel?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) Near Lakeland?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) Is that what you are talking about; a transfer point?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) Does that tunnel travel North/South?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) Does that run up the East coast?
A: No.

Q: (L) Lakeland is in the center of the state.
( T) Where does it go? Are these side tunnels to a main tunnel that runs along the East coast?
A: All are interconnected.

Q: (T) So, it is like a subway or bus line? Is there a tunnel farther South of here?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) How far does the farthest South tunnel go?
A: Antarctica.

Q: (J) Is there a tunnel near our house, in St. Petersburg?
A: No.

Q: (T) Is there a tunnel to MacDill?
A: No.

Q: (L) I think that, in general, importance we would ascribe to surface structures may not be a consideration here.
( T) I was thinking about the military base.
( L) I would think that the tunnels bear no relationship to the structures under the surface except in certain instances.
( J) But, what got there first, the tunnels or the structures on the surface?
(L) Obviously the tunnels have been there for a long time, and perhaps, in certain instances a situation may be manipulated so that a specific structure is built to facilitate the tunnel usage, but the fact that Lakeland is built over it may not be relevant.
( T) There is no entrance to the tunnel system near Lakeland?
A: Yes.

Q: (J) And there are no tunnels down in Pinellas?
A: Phosphate plant.

Q: (T) There’s a tunnel entrance in the phosphate plant?
(L) I’ve got one more question about the tunnels.
A: Mine.

Q: (T) There is a tunnel entrance in one of the phosphate mines?
A: Yes.

Q: (J) Was the placement of this tunnel under our feet the reason Laura got this house?
A: No.

Q: (T) Does the placement of the tunnel underneath us have something to do with the channel?
A: Maybe.

Q: (T) Because of the greater EM underneath us; we are tapping into that EM energy?
A: Helps in offhand way.

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